Arthur,

How nice of you to spend your time on this post.

I'll be answering it properly in a day or two - or three.

Maybe I can show you how the Georgist free market differs from
the Austrians and other similar school.

Harry

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Harry,

Here are some generally accepted ways in which markets can fail.

arthur



Definitions of market failure on the Web:

The result when the price of goods and services do not reflect
the true costs of producing and consuming those goods and
services. In the context of environmental externalities, a market
failure occurs when the price of goods and services does not
reflect full societal costs, which are conventional financial
costs plus environmental externalities. ...
www.fiscallygreen.ca/efr5.html

Description: This occurs when market prices are not equal to the
social opportunity cost of resources. External effects or
externalities are evidence of market failure. Source: Global
Biodiversity Assessment GBA
europa.eu.int/comm/research/biosociety/library/glossarylist_en.cf
m

Any market imperfection, but especially the complete absence of a
market due to incomplete or asymmetric information.
www-personal.umich.edu/~alandear/glossary/m.html

The failure of an unregulated market to achieve an efficient
allocation of resources.
www.econ100.com/eu5e/open/glossary.html

The inability of a system of market production to provide certain
goods either at all or at the optimal level because of
imperfections in the market mechanism; or the inability of a
system of markets to fully account for all costs of supplying
outputs. Market failure results in the overproduction of goods
and services having negative external effects and the
underproduction of goods and services having positive external
effects. ...
www.adb.org/Documents/Guidelines/Eco_Analysis/glossary.asp

Failure of the market system to attain hypothetically ideal
allocative efficiency. This means that potential gain exists that
(for some reason) has not been captured.
www.rri.wvu.edu/WebBook/Schreiner/glossary.htm

These are the problems that result from the economy being left
solely to the free market. There would be an absence of
Government involvement in the economy.
www.tutor2u.net/economics/gcse/revision_notes/key_terms.htm

The concept that markets do not reflect the societal costs of all
economic activity and, in particular, the economic costs imposed
on third parties.
www.oceansatlas.com/unatlas/uses/uneptextsph/infoph/gsglossary.ht
ml

A condition that arises when unrestrained operation of markets
yields socially undesirable results.
www.crfonline.org/orc/glossary/m.html

The inability of an unregulated market to achieve allocative
effiency in all circumstances. The main types of market failure
are: monopoly, externalities, public goods and information
asymmetries.
www.booksites.net/download/mcaleese/student_files/glossary.html

a situation in which economic efficiency has not been achieved
through market mechanism. Market failure may manifest itself
either in the inability of the system to produce goods which are
wanted or by a maldistribution of resources which could be
improved in such a way that some consumers would be better off
and worse off. ...
poli.haifa.ac.il/~levi/res/dicpe.html

situations where market forces do not allocate resources towards
their highest valued use
www.ainc-inac.gc.ca/pr/ra/fnt_nfr/glos_e.html

Situations in which a market economy produces too much or too
little of certain products and thus does not make the most
efficient use of society's limited resources.
wps.aw.com/aw_rohlf_econreason_5/0,5759,11635-,00.html

In economics, a market failure is a situation in which markets do
not efficiently organize production or allocate goods and
services to consumers (for example, a failure to allocate goods
in a way some see as socially or morally preferable). To
economists, the term would normally be applied to situations
where the inefficiency is particularly dramatic, or when it is
suggested that non-market institutions would provide a more
desirable result. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_failure



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Subject: RE: [Futurework] A way out


Brad,

Glad you are back.

How do markets fail?

Harry

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Subject: Re: [Futurework] A way out

I just came across an interesting article on the BBC website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4700430.stm

"Is it time to let internet companies provide premium access to
paying 
websites and services? No, says technology commentator Bill
Thompson.

....

Even those who remember that the net emerged from a
publicly-funded 
attempt to build a high-speed data network choose to claim that
the days 
of subsidy are now over and that only deregulation can offer real

benefits, both to companies and to the wider society.

For them, any attempt to restrict the telephone companies'
freedom to 
offer preferential service is tantamount to state socialism and
one step 
away from a communist revolution.

Of course they are wrong, and badly so.

I'm a market socialist, and I believe that regulated markets are
the 
best way to create social value. I have also been using the net
since 
1985 and I have seen it evolve and grow thanks to the balance
between 
regulation and market forces. That balance has to be maintained.

Social justice is best served by ensuring that public utilities,
of 
which the network is surely one, are regulated in the public
interest.

Markets fail, and they do so in ways that any humane society must

address. Ensuring that network access is available to all and
that the 
network itself carries all lawful traffic is the only way
forward.

We must just hope that the US government recognises that this is
the 
case, and sets a good example to the rest of the world."

I think that sounds right: "market socialism".  It is analogous,
on the 
adult level,
to what D.W. Winnicott argued for at the child-developmental
level ("The
Maturational Process and the Facilitating Environment"), in his
essay
"The Capacity to be Alone", where he described the environment
which
facilitates the maturation of the individual: Free space to do
what one
wants, but knowing that, if things go badly, mother is nearby to
help,
as opposed to either: (1) The stultifying mother who intrudes
[AKA
bureaucratic socialism], or (2) Abandonment [AKA unregulated free

enterprise].

Let those whose aspirations are to make money be free to make it
within the limits of their not being able to hurt those who
either
have disabilities which prevent them from competing, or whose
value system motivates them to do things other than compete
(e.g.,
do basic research, etc.).

\brad mccormick

-- 
  Let your light so shine before men,
              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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