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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad McCormick,
Ed.D.
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 9:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Christoph Reuss'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Advertising and more


Harry Pollard wrote:
>
> Brad and Chris,
>
> Why do you care about advertising?
>

 From a Despair comix cover (ca. 1972):

Spouse #1: "Let's see if there's anything good on TV tonite."

Spouse #2: "Why bother?"

"In the end", perhaps nothing mattters, not even -- pace Nietzsche --
"nothing" itself. Certainly my opinion as a citizen of
a free society that loves freedom -- certainly my opinion
does not matter [although my Yale classmate George W Bush's
opinion *does* mattter, see, e.g., how he has changed
Iraq from what it would otherwise have become in the past
6 years -- yes, GWB's opinions do matter, so he does
indeed have reason to bother].

> Are you regularly swindled by advertisers? Haven’t you ever decided 
> not to patronize someone who didn’t deliver?
>
Yes, but if I really value what they have to offer,
I go to them. (I know that's not the
way you meant it, but perhaps there's a point
to my wilful misinterpretation).

Ah, but you are going to say: Well, Brad, how
could you know they had anything you wanted unless
they advertised?

And there would be a point to that -- in moderation, e.g.,
simple B&W print ad in the NYT, or a simple ascii
email message.... But there is also "word of mouth" and
other non-advertising ways of finding out about something.

\brad mccormick


> I find advertising useful. I’m surprised you don’t.
>
> Harry
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> >-----Original Message-----
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> >On Behalf Of Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
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> >Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:13 PM
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> >To: Christoph Reuss
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> >Cc: [email protected]
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> >Subject: Re: [Futurework] Advertising and more
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> >
>
> >Christoph Reuss wrote:
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> >>> I'd push the argument even a bit further: the ubiquity of advertising
>
> >>> teaches by example that self-celebration, exaggeration, deceit, and
>
> >>> self-promotion are OK. Is it any surprise that ordinary people too 
> often
>
> >>> reflect these values, and continue to do so if they come to prominence.
>
> >>> Professional athletes self-celebrate their smallest accomplishments 
> on the
>
> >>> field, and presidents employ spin instead of policy.
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> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >> This is the logical outcome as long as predators are in charge.
>
> >> Those who call the shots make the rules of the game.
>
> >> The propaganda has to be debunked, then the people will see that
>
> >> the emperor has no clothes. Naked emperors have no authority left.
>
> >>
>
> >[snip]
>
> >
>
> >I think we would need to anticipate a *transition period* during which
>
> >those persons -- almost all of us -- who were childreared into
>
> >the old regime would act dysfunctionally, including continuing to
>
> >childrear their children in the old ways. I like to think of
>
> >psychoanalysis as a *transitional* discipline: Needed to help
>
> >the crippled, in the old regime, to survive, and, in a new regime,
>
> >to help them cease to be self-destructive ("no pain, no gain",
>
> >"things shouldn't be too easy for people", "if you never experienced
>
> >bad things you couldn't appreciate the good things"...).
>
> >
>
> >It's not simple. --Unless one believes in the indestructibility of
>
> >the innate goodness of the proletariat (the post-industrial return of 
> Martin
>
> >Guerre...), or some such....
>
> >
>
> >\brad mccormick
>
> >
>
> >--
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> > Let your light so shine before men,
>
> > that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
>
> >
>
> > Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)
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> >
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              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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