Re: [Futurework] Advertising and more

Mon, 01 May 2006 15:12:30 -0700 

Cordell, Arthur: ECOM wrote:

http://iacs5.ucsd.edu/%7Epbang/dance_monkeys.htm

I especially liked Allan Greenspan Monkey.  Important dude
he must be to have had such a prominent role in the film.

\brad mccormick





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Harry Pollard wrote:

Brad and Chris,

Why do you care about advertising?



 From a Despair comix cover (ca. 1972):

Spouse #1: "Let's see if there's anything good on TV tonite."

Spouse #2: "Why bother?"

"In the end", perhaps nothing mattters, not even -- pace Nietzsche --
"nothing" itself. Certainly my opinion as a citizen of
a free society that loves freedom -- certainly my opinion
does not matter [although my Yale classmate George W Bush's
opinion *does* mattter, see, e.g., how he has changed
Iraq from what it would otherwise have become in the past
6 years -- yes, GWB's opinions do matter, so he does
indeed have reason to bother].
Are you regularly swindled by advertisers? Haven’t you ever decided not to patronize someone who didn’t deliver? 


Yes, but if I really value what they have to offer,
I go to them. (I know that's not the
way you meant it, but perhaps there's a point
to my wilful misinterpretation).

Ah, but you are going to say: Well, Brad, how
could you know they had anything you wanted unless
they advertised?

And there would be a point to that -- in moderation, e.g.,
simple B&W print ad in the NYT, or a simple ascii
email message.... But there is also "word of mouth" and
other non-advertising ways of finding out about something.

\brad mccormick



I find advertising useful. I’m surprised you don’t.

Harry

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On Behalf Of Brad McCormick, Ed.D.
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:13 PM To: Christoph Reuss Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Advertising and more Christoph Reuss wrote: 
I'd push the argument even a bit further: the ubiquity of advertising
teaches by example that self-celebration, exaggeration, deceit, and self-promotion are OK. Is it any surprise that ordinary people too 
often


reflect these values, and continue to do so if they come to prominence.
Professional athletes self-celebrate their smallest accomplishments 
on the


field, and presidents employ spin instead of policy.

This is the logical outcome as long as predators are in charge.
Those who call the shots make the rules of the game. The propaganda has to be debunked, then the people will see that the emperor has no clothes. Naked emperors have no authority left. 
[snip]
I think we would need to anticipate a *transition period* during which those persons -- almost all of us -- who were childreared into the old regime would act dysfunctionally, including continuing to childrear their children in the old ways. I like to think of psychoanalysis as a *transitional* discipline: Needed to help the crippled, in the old regime, to survive, and, in a new regime, to help them cease to be self-destructive ("no pain, no gain", "things shouldn't be too easy for people", "if you never experienced bad things you couldn't appreciate the good things"...). It's not simple. --Unless one believes in the indestructibility of the innate goodness of the proletariat (the post-industrial return of 
Martin


Guerre...), or some such....
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