Brad,

 

We said:

 

Harry: Are you regularly swindled by advertisers? Haven’t you ever decided not to patronize someone who didn’t deliver?

 

Brad: Yes, but if I really value what they have to offer, I go to them. (I know that's not the way you meant it, but perhaps there's a point to my wilful misinterpretation).

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It’s all the same. You patronize or not according to your likes or dislikes.

 

All advertising does is tell what there is to patronize, or not. I think that Lawry may be worried about it, but he shouldn’t be.

 

I have often been glad to discover there is something out there that I will find useful.

 

Harry

 

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>-----Original Message-----

>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>On Behalf Of Brad McCormick, Ed.D.

>Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:12 AM

>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Cc: 'Christoph Reuss'; [email protected]

>Subject: Re: [Futurework] Advertising and more

> 

>Harry Pollard wrote:

>> 

>> Brad and Chris,

>> 

>> Why do you care about advertising?

>> 

> 

> From a Despair comix cover (ca. 1972):

> 

>Spouse #1: "Let's see if there's anything good on TV tonite."

> 

>Spouse #2: "Why bother?"

> 

>"In the end", perhaps nothing mattters, not even -- pace Nietzsche --

>"nothing" itself. Certainly my opinion as a citizen of

>a free society that loves freedom -- certainly my opinion

>does not matter [although my Yale classmate George W Bush's

>opinion *does* mattter, see, e.g., how he has changed

>Iraq from what it would otherwise have become in the past

>6 years -- yes, GWB's opinions do matter, so he does

>indeed have reason to bother].

> 

>> Are you regularly swindled by advertisers? Haven’t you ever decided

>> not to patronize someone who didn’t deliver?

>> 

>Yes, but if I really value what they have to offer,

>I go to them. (I know that's not the

>way you meant it, but perhaps there's a point

>to my wilful misinterpretation).

> 

>Ah, but you are going to say: Well, Brad, how

>could you know they had anything you wanted unless

>they advertised?

> 

>And there would be a point to that -- in moderation, e.g.,

>simple B&W print ad in the NYT, or a simple ascii

>email message.... But there is also "word of mouth" and

>other non-advertising ways of finding out about something.

> 

>\brad mccormick

> 

> 

>> I find advertising useful. I’m surprised you don’t.

>> 

>> Harry

>> 

>> *********************************

>> 

>> Henry George School of Los Angeles

>> 

>> Box 655 Tujunga CA 91042

>> 

>> 818 352-4141

>> 

>> *********************************

>> 

>> >-----Original Message-----

>> 

>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> 

>> >On Behalf Of Brad McCormick, Ed.D.

>> 

>> >Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:13 PM

>> 

>> >To: Christoph Reuss

>> 

>> >Cc: [email protected]

>> 

>> >Subject: Re: [Futurework] Advertising and more

>> 

>> >

>> 

>> >Christoph Reuss wrote:

>> 

>> >>> I'd push the argument even a bit further: the ubiquity of advertising

>> 

>> >>> teaches by example that self-celebration, exaggeration, deceit, and

>> 

>> >>> self-promotion are OK. Is it any surprise that ordinary people too

>> often

>> 

>> >>> reflect these values, and continue to do so if they come to prominence.

>> 

>> >>> Professional athletes self-celebrate their smallest accomplishments

>> on the

>> 

>> >>> field, and presidents employ spin instead of policy.

>> 

>> >>>

>> 

>> >>

>> 

>> >> This is the logical outcome as long as predators are in charge.

>> 

>> >> Those who call the shots make the rules of the game.

>> 

>> >> The propaganda has to be debunked, then the people will see that

>> 

>> >> the emperor has no clothes. Naked emperors have no authority left.

>> 

>> >>

>> 

>> >[snip]

>> 

>> >

>> 

>> >I think we would need to anticipate a *transition period* during which

>> 

>> >those persons -- almost all of us -- who were childreared into

>> 

>> >the old regime would act dysfunctionally, including continuing to

>> 

>> >childrear their children in the old ways. I like to think of

>> 

>> >psychoanalysis as a *transitional* discipline: Needed to help

>> 

>> >the crippled, in the old regime, to survive, and, in a new regime,

>> 

>> >to help them cease to be self-destructive ("no pain, no gain",

>> 

>> >"things shouldn't be too easy for people", "if you never experienced

>> 

>> >bad things you couldn't appreciate the good things"...).

>> 

>> >

>> 

>> >It's not simple. --Unless one believes in the indestructibility of

>> 

>> >the innate goodness of the proletariat (the post-industrial return of

>> Martin

>> 

>> >Guerre...), or some such....

>> 

>> >

>> 

>> >\brad mccormick

>> 

>> >

>> 

>> >--

>> 

>> > Let your light so shine before men,

>> 

>> > that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

>> 

>> >

>> 

>> > Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

>> 

>> >

>> 

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