I agree that there are many pseudo-elite schools laying claims to the inspiration of young minds. I agree that the tone and emphasis in many courses will be guided by politics. But you still don't get much more than the three R's in most publicly funded US schools.
 
I'm sorry you found Yale lacking in the sixties. I'm sure you would be doubly appalled today. Nonetheless, I believe it was Yale that was the recipient of an anonymous $100 million dollar donation to cover all tuition fees for music students. Provided they don't merely pump out marching band music, the money isn't entirely wasted.
 
Private schools are the ones that by far offer the most art programs, as well as diverse recreational ones. I cannot argue that most will be graduating little Dubya's, and interpretation of subject matter by those teaching is everything.
 
I have been mostly disappointed with modern art, architecture, music, and literature. When one examines the rest of society, from the lack of respect for our planet, to the lack of respect for our fellow humans, one can easily argue the case for the lack of guidance and leadership because of the elected's poor quality of education/upbringing/environment.
 
As to favelas being unlikely to produce the next Shakespeare or 'massive erudition', for the most part you will be right. Most of the best of the arts has been produced by rather more secure individuals benefiting at least from Maslow's "most basic". It has also typically been promoted by established agents. Yet, there are the exceptions. Excellent song, music and literature came out of the holocaust, and two world wars. In fact, the experience of overwhelming emotional loss or anger has been the author of many incredible works, and many inspirational leaders. We all grow from our most painful moments, in one way or another. My preference would be for happy upbringings, but this doesn't necessarily result in a guarantee of sanity. Sensitivity develops out of many different factors.
 
What was interesting to me about the favelas was that there is something there culturally for which tourists would risk the gang violence.They all have paid guides to walk them through the appropriate behavior; what to wear in a place where donning the wrong color can inspire the wrath of the wrong groups, and where sudden movements like unbuckling a seatbelt can be fatal. But there seems to be enough there today for a new tourist industry--and if a lot of it is for the tourist mentality, then at least it's providing some income where you would expect most to come from drugs, stolen goods or prostitution or slavery. If drugs were the only game in town, everyone would be dead. The slavery occurs primarily when the favela dweller gets a job on the outside. Entrepreneurs are beating the odds, and women are the ones who weave, prepare cloth, sew, bake and cook, along with countless other tasks from which men have traditionally distanced themselves. Word has it the street parties are happening most days and nights, and some can't resist the allure of a good party.
 
We have a different type of security structure, with security systems and police that may protect us. You could say that that defensiveness, much like that of the Bush government, has been the direct cause of aggression and subsequent guilt. Rio's favelas have a system in which they don't tend to worry so much about their property being stolen because their neighbors are extremely close, watching and ready to protect, but they are all in the same boat. Religion has been central to the culture, and Ed's point of this aspect affecting behavior has validity. They also have little to lose--which puts a different value onto property, putting it into a clearer perspective if one is to value that which has no price.
 
The people and their unfortunate circumstances were there before the gangs. The gangs did not bring the people, though it can be argued that the gangs have led the people into worse predicaments. The people didn't just come up with a whole new culture, though their experiences there would add or subtract to something already vibrant. Quite a sophisticated self-policing and scouting system has arisen which does a fairly good job of warning people of imminent gang activity and police retaliation. Most will stay indoors, or abandon activities in certain areas when word gets out, or if gun shots are heard. They have learned to cope, and given this, without the myriad restrictions we have in our society, many will, I think, emerge as very powerful and even very sensitive people. I think it unwise to underestimate what may come from this new frontier. Europe, Asia, and America all went through extremely violent pasts to arrive at where-ever they are at today. Some is unwholesome, some is good, some is great.
 
Should you wish to review the findings of the Spring trip by Avril Benoit, check out May 05/06 of CBC Radio One. This was an excerpt from a series, done after the book Ed has recommended. I realize Planet of Slums is an important work, and was discussed on the series, but it is possible that the author is overlooking the cultural history the people had to have brought with them to these slums. I wasn't suggesting that anyone was well off, apart from the drug lords, but that in Rio, at any rate, something is stirring, refusing to succumb to despair.
 
I bow to your personal experience, Ed, but you were there some years ago, and in a different location. Is Sao Paulo on the coast? It doesn't appear to be on my ancient maps. But more to the point, people never remain inert for long. Things had to have progressed, apart from the violence. As an outsider, you lived in fear to begin with, but I marvel that you lasted that long. Was protection was provided for you as a special consultant/researcher? Did you sleep behind cardboard? The people in Rio are used to it, you were not. The kids laugh and play, but you would have been constantly comparing what your kids have to what these kids haven't. Perhaps Sao Paulo was more oppressed than in today's Rio favela.
 
Certainly, it's a crime to humanity that these places exist, but I for one will be watching how they are going to change the world in surprising ways for the better.
 
Natalia
 
 
 
 
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Quoting Darryl & Natalia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> American socialization has been shaped by the market place, by the cold
> demands of corporate agendas--which at the last count very much included the
> military agenda. If culture was still encouraged at school, which is

> unlikely at all but the elite private institutions today,

My experience at Yale in the mid 60's and elsewhere leads

me to think you are too optimistic here.  If culture is

encouraged at "elite" schools, it is mostly, from my experience,

in the hypocritical way that honesty is also encouraged:

Don't cheat but if you get a low grade you may suffer

badly for the rest of your by-your-poor-performance-likely-

shortened life.  The most important thing about the Iliad

is remembering who did what to who to answer questions

on the final exam.  In this regard, the only reason the Iliad

is "higher" than a MacDonalds menu is that people generally

find it harder to memorize the facts in it and therefore can be

tested more "rigorously".  Dickens is surely one of the

greatest authors because his books contain lots of difficult

to remember facts unlike, e.g., Sophocles' _Oedipus at

Colonus_, which clearly states: "Best of all not to have

been born; second best to have seen the light and go back

swiftly whence on came. The feathery follies of

his youth once past, what trouble is beyong the range of man?..."

[Sophocles didn't know about the SAT's....]

Shame on those who use high culture to hurt persons

[No, I am not talking about the Nazi leaders here but

about "our" teachers who are proud of being "tough"]

and thereby teach by example if not by their bocal (I believe the

Spanish word for mouth is "boca") effluents that

culture is truly anti-life.

\brad mccormick

then a revival of


> appreciation could occur. A steady diet of math and computers leaves the
> soul rather empty, and the misguided concept of having possessions to fill
> the emptiness inside results.
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> Culture, much like sports and outdoor recreation, seem to have their very
> specific place, not to mention their price. It's become rather cost
> prohibitive, unfortunately especially for the young. Street musicians are
> now licensed, theatre and opera are a costly occasion, and pro sports is
> costlier than the arts. Enjoying the parks can cost a pretty penny too. It
> seems that the only things the feds fund freely these days are corporate
> concerns.
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> Interesting how the Favelas in Rio are actually doing well culturally. So
> much so that their main source of income has become tourism. The CBC Radio
> One toured a few of the major world cities' illegal communities, and
> discovered a vibrant community in Rio. People there live in relative safety
> because neighbors watch out for each other. Most people abide by a code of
> behavior that, once understood, inspires a general sense of trust, and apart
> from gang violence, most people make the time for song and music, art and
> even architectural accomplishments out of low cost/no cost material. Women

> particularly have been thriving because of demand for arts and crafts.

This, surely is very good.  But it is not Bach or Josquin,

or Kant or Husserl, or Palladio or Louis Kahn.... 

and never likely will be. 

The rough and tumble of the streets cannot produce "massive erudition" and

connoisseurship.  Callouses help one to survive at the price

of desensitizing, etc.

Perhaps high culture does not deserve to exist?

\brad mccormick

It's


> as if we have been provided assurance in this new dark age, as a result of
> their budding successes, that arts and culture once again prove to be the
> foundation of society and economy. I'm sure that Ray has been following
> closely.
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>> > Natalia thought you would be interested in this story: NPR : Tiny Houses
> Find a Friend on the Gulf Coast
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>> I heard this one.  Some of the houses are 70 sq/ft -- but also in
> "daddy's"
>> back yard so that the tenant can use the facilities in the big traditional
>> house.
>>
>> The Unabomber certainly was a proponent of small houses -- but with
>> self-sufficiency.
>> Today's NYT has a fine article: "Bigger Housese, Longer Commutes"
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/21/realestate/21cov.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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>> I think the problem is largely that Americans' socialization -- even
>> many with
>> PhDs -- does not cultivate in them a love for high culture but rather a
>> lust for more square feet.
>>
>> I knew the son of the person I consider one of the important writers of
>> all times -- not comparatively, but irrespective of comparison: Hermann
>> Broch.
>> "Broch's son" lived in a one bedroom apartment with his wife on the
>> upper east
>> side of manhattan.  It was a small apartment: the kitchen was especially
>> small,
>> perhaps 5 by 6 feet???  But it was a place filled with the culture of
>> pre-WWII "Vienna" (and also a few chotchkies(sp?)).  I am sure there
>> are MacMansions in Westchester that are furnished to a higher level of
>> culture than Broch's little apartment -- I am sure of this because I
>> believe there exist persons in our society who have both a lot of money
>> and also a
>> lot of cultivation -- but I suspect these are few.  Broch's little
> apartment
>> was tight on square feet, but rich in "the life of the mind".  I loved
>> visiting
>> him and his wife -- I would always get a glass of fine cognac (well that
>> would
>> probably be available in many of the MacMansions...), but I would
>> savor to look at the details in the apartment: the lovely japanese
>> screen on the
>> libing room wall, the cigarette holder on the table (not that I smoked),
> the
>> bookcase, the poster of his father from Surkamp Verlag (sp?).
>> Aristocracy reduced to having to count its pennies, probably, but
>> a graciousness that generates a world of meaningful symbols, not just
>> "space".  Of course, the symbols were meaningful *to me*, and
>> another might have found it all not really serious compared to
>> acquiring another company or exceeding wall street's
>> expectations by a quarter percent....
>>
>> Was man made for the Sabbath, or was the Sabbath made for man?
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>> Was man made for space, or was space made for man?
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>> Of course, given my druthers, I'd like to live some place
>> like Katsura, or even just an apartment in one of Trump's towers
>> (there was once a piece in the NYT about an apartment in
>> Tudor City across from the UN, a "triplex", where the owners,
>> went away each weekend -- no, not to the Hamptons, no, not to
>> the Berkshires -- but to their *third floor* for the weekend -->
>> now *that's* where I'd like to live.  But if I can't live there,
>> I'd rather live in a small place where I had the leisure to savor
>> my Glenkinchie in my Kakumi Seiho sake cup, than be
>> putting in sweat equity to earn square feet on the road.
>>
>> Why is it better to be a kamikaze pilot than to have
>> a long commute?  Because the kamikaze pilot only
>> has to make the trip once.
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>> \brad mccormick
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