Natalia,

 

People’s homes were sprayed twice a year.

 

The WHO used 335,000 sprayers who were thus exposed heavily
to DDT. No-one died as a result of DDT exposure – says the
WHO.

 

The bird death problem is a myth.

 

The actual count was that 16 species were up, and 9 down
over the years of DDT use. As I mentioned to Arthur, all
the raptor counts were up.

 

Lots of things cause eggshell thinning – including
environmentalists prying around.

 

Oh, yes, the wild animal count was up for all except
mountain sheep.

 

There is no record of anyone being killed by DDT, though
one hardy soul ate and drank it for a year.

 

Banning DDT was a con executed by environmental fanatics
and nothing scientific entered into the ban.

 

Harry

 

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My first thought in response to the malaria problem was
that Unicef should stop charging people US $5.00 for
mosquito nets. This is usually cost prohibitive for people
whose annual income may not exceed same, or whose monthly
food allowance would have to be spent. Donations were
supposed to have paid for these nets, but, as usual,
administrative costs come first. What it likely means is
that there is a huge surplus of nets doing no one any good,
and people die needlessly.

I just gave Darryl a call on this topic, having remembered
a previous discussion about DDT use on this list.

Darryl Beschell has, as some of you know, worked
extensively with farmers and government to reduce or avoid
pesticide use. His first response was that DDT use,
typically applied in areas of still water where the
malaria-carrying mosquito breeds, also wipes out all
beneficials (predators) which would otherwise be feasting
upon the vector's larvae, therefore eventually making the
problem far worse. DDT also kills amphibians in the water,
effects the birds and other wildlife using the ponds, and
though it doesn't cause cancer, can bring about one of many
mammalian health concerns such as asthma, allergies,
reproductive irregularities and also interferes with
calcium uptake -- hence, among many concerns -- the poor
quality of bird's egg shells . 

If you don't eradicate the beneficials, there'll be fewer
malaria carrying mosquitos. Introducing more water dwelling
or visiting beneficials to these areas would be the least
harmful answer. Draining still water is another less toxic
solution, since DDT use would kill off life in the ponds
anyway.

Natalia
 

Lawrence de Bivort wrote:



I don’t think Carson pretended to be a chemical research
scientist. Above all, she gave the alarm, and I think her
essential thesis – that infusing the food stream and
environment with industrial chemicals is a bad thing – has
stood the test of time very well, e.g. cigarettes, MSG,
transfats, etc. That she didn’t focus on cigarettes is not
much of a criticism; that she alerted a society and its
environmental scientists to pay attention to these things
is high praise. No tragedy at all there.

 

DDT is a good example of an agent that is inadequately
understood. And malaria is a horrible disease. And yes,
trying to rectify errors and improve our health through
systemic interventions will produce unintended effects. No
surprise there.  But is it not better than to try and solve
problems  than ignoring them for fear of not always getting
it right?

 

Dandelions? Wente has got to be kidding!  Dandelion salad,
dandelion wine....

 

Does anyone know if malaria can be stopped by any means
other than stopping DDT?  

 

Cheers,

Lawry

 

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Harry can annoy but he can also (in his own way ) inform.
It was in one of Harry's postings that I first became aware
of the DDT controversy and Rachel Carson's role.

Arthur 
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Carson's toxic legacy; Her book Silent Spring is a case
study in the tragedy of good intentions 
MARGARET WENTE 
24 May 2007 
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I was 12 when I read Rachel Carson's newly published book,
Silent Spring, in 1962. Although I'd never heard the term
“environmentalist,” she turned me into one. I didn't
understand the complicated science in it. But I was
horrified by her evocation of a natural world whose
creatures were being wiped out by man-made poisons – the
silent spring, where no birds sang. In school, I wrote an
essay praising Silent Spring, and another one explaining
why a bomb shelter wouldn't help you survive a nuclear
attack. (That was an apocalyptic time, not unlike our own.)


Born 100 years ago this week, Ms. Carson is still revered
as the patron saint of the environmental movement. Schools,
conferences and special days are named after her. Among her
foremost admirers is Al Gore. “Silent Spring came as a cry
in the wilderness, a deeply felt, thoroughly researched and
brilliantly written argument that changed the course of
history,” he wrote. 

Indeed it did – and not necessarily for the better. In
fact, it led to one of the greatest tragedies of modern
times. Thanks to Ms. Carson's all-out attack on pesticides,
DDT was banned in the West. But DDT was also the most
effective anti-malarial agent ever invented; before it fell
into disrepute, it was credited with saving 100 million
lives. When the Western nations cut off their support for
DDT spraying programs in the Third World, the death toll
shot back up. 

Today, malaria cripples local economies and kills 2.7
million people every year – mostly children under 5. In a
devastating investigative piece, New York Times journalist
Tina Rosenberg wrote, “Silent Spring is now killing African
children because of its persistence in the public mind.” 

“Poor woman. She never actually said ‘Ban DDT,' ” says Amir
Attaran, an expert on public-health and development policy
at the University of Ottawa. 

“Her point was that we should use chemicals less.” But for
environmental fundamentalists, Silent Spring was the ideal
propaganda tool to drive home their message. And even
though the World Health Organization has now reversed
itself on DDT, countless environmental and cancer activists
continue to cite the DDT ban as one of environmentalism's
greatest “victories.” 

DDT's persistence in the environment did, indeed, affect
certain bird species, such as eagles. But after decades of
testing, there's not a shred of evidence that it causes
cancer in humans, as Ms. Carson claimed. Although she was
an eloquent, impassioned writer, science wasn't her strong
suit. “She focused on the one environmental subject
[chemicals] where you have to have the greatest scientific
knowledge,” says Prof. Attaran. 

Silent Spring is riddled with anecdotal evidence and
misleading assertions that flunk the most basic science
test. “Today more American school children die of cancer
than from any other cause,” she wrote, implying that
pesticides were to blame. But the real reason for this
alarming trend was the dramatic decline in other causes of
child mortality, especially infectious diseases. At the
time she wrote, the mortality rate from childhood cancer
hadn't changed for decades. Curiously, she also overlooked
the greatest man-made cancer agent of them all: cigarettes.


Today the legacy of Silent Spring is all around us. As
cities and towns rush to ban lawn sprays, you can thank Ms.
Carson for the dandelions in the park. The belief that
man-made agents are unnatural, and thus inherently bad –
even in the most minute amounts – is now widespread.
Millions of people are convinced that toxic chemicals in
our food, our water, and our air are responsible for the
cancer epidemic, even though no such epidemic exists. Her
apocalyptic prophecies about how mankind is destroying the
Earth are faithfully reproduced by extremists in the global
warming crowd. Most seriously, groups like the Sierra Club
continue to lobby against DDT because of the potential for
“widespread misuse” – yet another example of the
distressing tendency among environmentalists to sacrifice
the interests of the Third World because they think they
know better. 

Ms. Carson wasn't really the mother of environmentalism
either, as her admirers like to claim. By the time she came
along, the environmental movement had been going strong for
decades, and the public had already embraced the importance
of species conservation and the preservation of open
spaces. 

The movement was already poised for its next – and far more
problematic – wave, the assault on Big Chem. “She didn't
launch that movement,” says Prof. Attaran. “She was used by
it.” 

And she was not used well. She may have turned the sixties
generation on to environmentalism. But ultimately, Silent
Spring is a case study in the tragedy of good intentions. 

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