This morning I listened to an interview with Lester Brown, President of the 
Earth Policy Institute and author of the Plan B books, the latest being Plan B 
3.O.  In the interview, Brown saw global population stabilizing at 8 billion 
and went through the usual list of problems that we are now encountering: 
global warming; shift in land use from food to ethanol production; aquifer and 
soil depletion; etc. A review of Plan B 3.0 can be found at 
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/02/book_review_pla.php and you can 
download the book as a PDF file there.  

An article by Brown and Jonathan Lewis recently appeared in the Washington Post 
and can be accessed at 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/21/AR2008042102555.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
 .
 
What I found interesting is that the page on which the article appears also 
contains an add for a Toyota Tundra, a monster gas-guzzling panel truck!  Oh 
well....

Brown is now into his seventies.  While one has to admire what he and other 
aging eco-warriors have done and are still in many cases doing, I personally 
think it ain't going to work the way they want it to.  I'm tending back to the 
view that people don't learn rationally, they learn catastrophically, a view 
that I've tried very hard to abandon.  We accelerate until we hit a wall.  
Those that are left will then pick themselves up, scratch their heads, and ask 
each other 'now what the hell that was all about!?'

Ed


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  From: Cordell, Arthur: ECOM 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:13 AM
  Subject: RE: [Ottawadissenters] Economic De-growth for Ecological 
Sustainability and Social Equity



  I wish the project well.  I don't think it will go very far.  de-growth is 
usually called economic recession or economic depression.  I don't see much 
support for this in any part of our society.

  I realize they are looking for managed or sustainable or optiumum or balanced 
de-growth, but the net result is that we have built a society that hands out 
economic goodies.  People will have to be convinced that taking away such 
goodies is a positive or plus in their lives.

  Arthur


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jon Legg
  Sent: Wed 5/14/2008 9:04 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Ottawadissenters] Economic De-growth for Ecological Sustainability 
and Social Equity



  Hi Dissenters,



  This looks interesting.



  I haven't taken much time to research this, but it appears that there is the 
beginning of discussions in Europe on "de-growth" (the word in French that is 
used is "décroissance".



  It's the first of a number of conferences sponsored by some organization 
called, "European Society for Ecological Economics".  



  The name of the conference is, "Economic De-growth for Ecological 
Sustainability and Social Equity".



  The web link is as follows:



  http://events.it-sudparis.eu/degrowthconference/en/



  Without much study of all the material, I nonetheless draw some hope from the 
theme that there are some people who have realized that growth is the greatest 
problem.



  Very late in the game, but perhaps better late than never.



  Cheers,



  Jon







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