Arthur,

At 16:30 28/07/2009 -0400, you wrote:
(AC)
All depends on what is meant by melt-down.

An emotive metaphor too easily flung around!

(AC)
Printing money to stimulate an over-leveraged economy doesnt feel right. Unemployment roles are rising with little indication that many who are without jobs will ever come back into the labour force.

This, unfortunately, is true. If anything, the present credit-crunch will accelerate the already-changing job structure (to something which I'm tempted to call a post-service society) rather than change anything basic to age-old economic transactions (which, some archeologists now believe, even our side-kicks, Neanderthal man, was carrying out 40,000-odd years ago).

 (AC)
Perhaps the new bubble is the belief that printing presses can run 24/7 with little or no consequence.

As you will recall, I wrote a week or two ago in personal correspondence that, probably, Western governments will lose their nerve in applying any more quantitative easing for fear of stoking up a potential dam-burst of inflation (a more modest, and more accurate, metaphor!). I seemed to be contradicted in the UK press a day or so later when it was confidently predicted that the Bank of England was about to release another £25 billion at their next decision meeting. (This is an unused final tranche of the original decision.) In fact, they decided not to do so. Nor do I think that Obama and Geithner will dare to do so in the coming months. It is already apparent that the first tranches of the original "easing" have done nothing to employment -- or at least so little as to be invisible.

Keith


Arthur

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:46 PM
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Subject: [Futurework] [FW] No melt-down

The present world economy has been described recently on this List as being in "melt-down". It's not in melt-down at all. The Western countries are in a severe economic recession but China's production dipped only slightly during the last six months and is already showing signs of re-gaining its typical 10% economic growth. Protective trade tariffs might well be applied by Western countries against Chinese goods -- or attempted anyway -- but I really don't see how this could hold, politically, in modern times. Consumer demand for the cheaper Chinese goods by populations in recession would be very powerful indeed.

Nor will Western governments be able to impose higher taxes year after year (15 to 20 years at least in the US, Japan and most West European countries) on those fortunate enough to still be in work in order to pay the massive debts of quantitative easing. Instead, governments will have to cut back on government personnel and services. Leaks from the UK Treasury are already talking about 20% cuts across all departments. Huge changes are about to take place in all developed countries but it will still not be an economic melt-down.

Keith Hudson.


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