I just noticed that I didn't respond to this - which I liked.
We are finally, after a mostly cold (for us) winter, moving into the high 70's and low 80's. We had a lot of rain and Mammoth ski resort and other parts of the northern mountains - from which we get our water supply from the snow melt - exceeded 600" - 50 ft. of snow. Now for a summer of sunshine - oh, and smog and fires. Maybe we can't win! Harry From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:05 PM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; Harry Pollard Subject: Re: [Futurework] "Free" Trade at work! Harry, As you are open to the idea that trade is a natural activity of man you might be interested in a book which is coming our next year, "Lost Treasure of Atlantis" by Gavin Menzies. This takes us behind the legend of Atlantis as related by Plato to the destruction of the immensely weathy Minoan civilization of Crete by the Santorini volcano in 1450BC. There is now evidence that, before then, the Minoans had a vast trading network between the Great Lakes (US) -- mainly for copper -- and Kerala in India, trading goods from six civilizations altogether. Even trans-oceanic Chinese traders from about 1500BC to 1450AD, occasionally visiting the West coast of the Americas didn't equal the enterprise of the Minoans! Another book associated with the above which you might not want to read (90 pages of text, 500 pages of references!) is "World Trade and Biological Exchanges Before 1492" by (Profs) Sorenson and Johannessen, which details goods, plants and even diseases that were exchanged and transplanted between the Americas and Asia a thousand or two years before Columbus. There is also accumulating evidence which is highly suggestive that long-distance land trade was going on 50,000 or even 75,000 years ago -- sea-shells for ornaments, ochres for personal decoration, flint and sting-ray barbs for hunting tools -- and not necessarily confined to Homo sapiens either! I see trade as being an inter-group extension of the normal favours and transactions that go on within groups. Keith At 18:22 16/04/2010 -0700, you wrote: Chris, You are not against free trade, you seem to be against all trade. Yet, trade multiplies production and enables and enables billions of people to enjoy a better life. Of course accidents happen whenever anybody does anything. I have already suggested to you that that to avoid any accidents you should never leave your home. On the other hand, I think most accidents happen in the home -- but they are probably minor accidents. Perhaps you had better just stay in bed. Harry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Futurework] "Free" Trade at work! The Australian Great Barrier Reef is now being polluted with fuel because a cheapo Chinese coal tanker was literally cutting corners while shipping coal from Australia to China -- although China is a net EXporter of coal! This shows the idiocy of "Free" Trade. (Is the coal from Australia, incl. shipping fees, even cheaper than what the Chinese can charge abroad for their coal??) Harry must feel great knowing that his cheapo keyboard helps to pollute the Great Barrier Reef (and of course China). Chris http://www.jaunted.com/story/2010/4/5/15244/97225/travel/Tanker+Collides+Int o+Great+Barrier+Reef,+Risks+Environmental+Catastrophe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework Keith Hudson, Saltford, England
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