Steve wrote:
> Mike called my one prior Denninger post a "right wing rant."

It is quite usual from that side to dismiss as "right wing" anything that
doesn't fit into their simple scheme.  This saves them from having to deal
with their own contradictions.


> And human nature (like the rest of
> nature) will not voluntarily share equally;
> it's not in our genes.
              ===^^^^^^
Who is "us"?  Are altruists from a different species or planet?
Btw, there is a big difference between sharing _equally_ and "sharing" à la
Soros (which only exists in this one species -- which already indicates that
it is NOT "in our genes").


> Apart from a few exceptions like Keith and maybe Ed Weick, this list is
> populated with positive future type activists who deem overshoot
> non-existent. They also think governments ( read politicians and
> bureaucrats) are well intentioned and among the most competent of the
> populace. I disagree. They also seem suspect of any who excell at ( and
> are rewarded for) private endeavors.

This doesn't describe me.  While I'm not a cave-man, I don't deem overshoot
non-existent -- in fact, I deem overshoot a highly probable outcome unless
Predator rule can be overcome in time.  The difference is that the cavemen
deem Predator rule and insatiable greed a hard-wired determinism, whereas I
see a chance of overcoming it by modern technological means.  But I concede
that this chance is small indeed, given that the Predators also know how to
instrumentalize modern technology for their goals.

Also, I do NOT "think governments ( read politicians and bureaucrats) are
well intentioned and among the most competent of the populace."
On the contrary, I have pointed out earlier that the current politicians
and bureaucrats are Predators (i.e. badly intentioned and technically
incompetent) and should be replaced by Producers.

Finally, I am NOT generally "suspect of any who excell at (and are rewarded
for) private endeavors", but I distinguish between Predator and Producer
endeavors, with only the latter being worth of getting rewarded, while
so far it usually goes the other way around (Predators get rewarded a lot,
Producers do the actual work but get little reward).


> But I will teach locally, in person, beginning next winter. It is a
> better use of my time than to try to convert religious people into
> evidence based thinkers or utopians into realists over the internet.

Do you think your outreach and selection possibilities will be greater
off-line??


> As long as
> 'someone else' pays, people will vote for it and politicians will spend
> it. Lazy is not just correct about the US, it is the species.

Don't your off-line pupils belong to this species?


> Cultures
> modify behavior, but they do not change the boundary behaviors of animal
> homo superstitious.

Will your teaching change that, or will it replace one superstition by
another?


> I'm aghast at the rationale anyone has for admiring
> Krugman. He wants to grow our way out of overshoot!! :-)

Krugman is just another bandit err pundit confusing people with smoke&mirrors
about the real issues, in order to let the deep pockets get away with theft.
He got the fake Economics "Nobel" (Alfred Nobel must be spinning in his grave
that the banksters fabricated this contradiction in terms*) for a reason...


> Here's a final teaser for the smart folks on this list:
>
> http://www.world-science.net/othernews/100701_freewill

As Predators have figured out long ago, the "unconscious" can be steered
to a great extent.  If they can steer it for bad purposes, why shouldn't
it be possible to steer it for good purposes?

Cheers,
Chris

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* "They are bloodsuckers who thrive on money  for making a few
   short-sighted statements about short-lived rules  which are so
   obscure that darkness is rendered even darker by them."
                        -- Alfred Nobel on Lawyers and Economists





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