> I believe you have to respect what you eat. What's the difference for the prey? Does it know at all that you "respect" it? Anyway, to say that billionaires have respect for the people they rip off, is a bit much...
Chris I hear you Chris. I understand where you are coming from. I make no distinction between life. To me all life has value and purpose and all of life is equal. My family's life is more precious to me. The deep lessons of my culture are more precious to me but we are not above you or anyone else. Neither are you above me. I tell our children when they plant the little plants in the small garden they are given for learning that the plants are alive and precious as is all life but we grieve for those closer to us although the children grieve and question the act of eating to live. They have to experience a connection of respect that says that one day we too will be food and will give and become the one who devours us as they become us in the reverse. Food is never a thing. We can't eat things. The first Christian theologian that I connected to when coming off of the reservation was Karl Barth. His since of the paradox of things was something that I understood. I also understood him taking his time guarding the border during WWII. All life is equal and precious but our close life to us is more precious to us personally because of our closeness. We say that plants and animals that become us during the act of eating give back their lives as we will do the same when the time we are given is over. That's our story. You can't prove that it isn't true and I can't prove that it is but it gives me purpose and intentionality and it ties me to my environment in ways that science has not been able to imagine much less document. But I know it. As for the billionaires. Welcome to my world. That world is the world of art and artists who have starved, sickened, lost their families, died and been made criminals by it. I wrote quite a lot about that world on this list from 1999 to 2003. You can read that if you want. It's all true and now it is raping and pillaging the non-artists and working on the elderly, the teachers and the doctors. It is an atrocity and is the despicable side of the marketplace. I'm too old to be a part of fixing that. I choose to work for balance, teach my students, enjoy my wife and work in my community to pass the lessons of 10,000 years on to the next generation. You may not understand this but the animals are our teachers. I have lot to do before I'm done. You will have to take care of the Billionaires and the demonic, immoral lessons of productivity. I've done all I can do. Best REH I would encourage you to look at some of the accomplishments of the people of this world done without the help of technology or even numbers. My people and my father were also masters of stone. Take a look at the largest sculpture on the planet. REH http://video.pbs.org/video/1392958573/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Krugman's Insanity, And The Hard Mathematical Truth REH wrote: > Chris my daughter's mother is Slovenian. I didn't just learn about this > stuff from Michel. I learned it in the family who is in contact with > relatives in what was Yugoslavia. Do you think the real background story was published in the Yugoslav newspapers funded by Soros? > I agree with both Mikes on what they > said. The U.S. used the Depleted Uranium Shells in Yugoslavia as we have in > Iraq in both wars. Bad stuff. I didn't contest the DUS statement, but to put the blame on anonymous entities like the World Bank while taking the blame away from the deep pockets who personally gained from the break-up and the resulting sell-out of resources. And even if one insists on blaming the WB, one should look at the decision- makers at the helm of it, and their personal connections. --- > I thought I made myself clear about Hungarians. They are great people and > like all cultures they have their own rules. They aren't criminals and if > you don't know the rules then you should not do business with any national > culture. I do business with individuals, not with nations, so I prefer to assess them as individuals. Of course one should take cultural backgrounds into account as an influence, but "Hungarians are great" is as wrong as "Hungarians are crooks" to assess a person. > You certainly would have a lot of trouble with my people. They > would just walk away the first time you opened your mouth and would never > take part in this dialogue. Sounds pretty close-minded. The approach of my culture is to dialogue with everyone -- we even mediate between Iran and USA. This culture of dialogue probably enabled us to keep the peace for centuries, also among our 4 language groups, while our neighbors were shooting at each other. Of course a bigot could say that makes us bad people and war profiteers, just because he doesn't like what I (as an individual) say. > I "read" both Soros and Patacki. I would walk very carefully around both > of them but they aren't illegal. Madoff on the other hand betrayed both of > his cultures. He is a criminal and would spend the rest of his life in jail > no matter which country he chose to judge him. That was a cheap shot Chris. This reminds a bit of the proverb that the man who kills one person is a criminal but the man who kills millions is a great statesman. Madoff may have defrauded a few rich buddies, but Soros' policies in the East had much worse impacts on tens of millions of people, and contributed to tens of thousands of deaths. It is quite telling about the system that Madoff got 150 years while Soros is considered a philanthropist and can legally keep reaping billions from every "crisis" while more people fall into misery after being "liberated" from their assets. > One more point. We are all predators. That's the usual excuse... > We eat. We kill to eat. Producers also eat. What marks the Predator is to hunt. Btw I'm a vegetarian... > I believe you have to respect what you eat. What's the difference for the prey? Does it know at all that you "respect" it? Anyway, to say that billionaires have respect for the people they rip off, is a bit much... 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