Two points. 1. If you are willing to consider yourself as resources for bacteria then its OK to use that language for a deer. We consider humans to be the gardeners. We have the same garden metaphor as the Christians and we had it before we met them. Did you look at the Inca URL that I posted? http://video.pbs.org/video/1392958573/ We believe that humans are the responsible ones for sustainability but we are equal with the garden, not superior to it. It is not FOR us but for all life. We have a Unity with all life, an Equality with all life, the same Eternity as all life and we are all Life. Being the Gardener is just the job. All human systems fit within the needs of that job. Non-human life has other jobs. We never left the Garden nor were we thrown out. That doesn't mean that we were the creators of a paradise but we were the keepers of those systems and we learned systems from the paradise itself.
2. AS FOR THE BILLIONAIRES: HERE'S WHAT I SAID AND IT'S STILL THE SAME! As for the billionaires. Welcome to my world. That world is the world of art and artists who have starved, sickened, lost their families, died and been made criminals by it. I wrote quite a lot about that world on this list from 1999 to 2003. You can read that if you want. It's all true and now it is raping and pillaging the non-artists and working on the elderly, the teachers and the doctors. It is an atrocity and is the despicable side of the marketplace. I'm too old to be a part of fixing that. I choose to work for balance, teach my students, enjoy my wife and work in my community to pass the lessons of 10,000 years on to the next generation. You may not understand this but the animals are our teachers. I have lot to do before I'm done. You will have to take care of the Billionaires and the demonic, immoral lessons of productivity. I've done all I can do. That's what I said in the earlier post but you seem to have ignored it. Maybe you didn't see it. I thought it was rather clear. REH July 12, 2010 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 6:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Futurework] the meaning of "respect what you eat" (was Re: Krugman's Insanity, And The Hard Mathematical Truth) REH wrote: > I make no > distinction between life. To me all life has value and purpose and all of > life is equal. My family's life is more precious to me. The deep lessons > of my culture are more precious to me but we are not above you or anyone > else. Neither are you above me. I tell our children when they plant the > little plants in the small garden they are given for learning that the > plants are alive and precious as is all life but we grieve for those closer > to us although the children grieve and question the act of eating to live. > They have to experience a connection of respect that says that one day we > too will be food and will give and become the one who devours us as they > become us in the reverse. Food is never a thing. We can't eat things. The > first Christian theologian that I connected to when coming off of the > reservation was Karl Barth. His since of the paradox of things was > something that I understood. I also understood him taking his time > guarding the border during WWII. All life is equal and precious but our > close life to us is more precious to us personally because of our closeness. > We say that plants and animals that become us during the act of eating give > back their lives as we will do the same when the time we are given is over. > That's our story. You can't prove that it isn't true and I can't prove > that it is but it gives me purpose and intentionality and it ties me to my > environment in ways that science has not been able to imagine much less > document. But I know it. Let's not beat around the bush, but cut straight to the core: The point of the Cherokee concept of "respect what you eat" is what we today call a _sustainable_ use of resources -- in this case, the hunted animals --, i.e. not to deplete the resources, but to "harvest" only so much that the resource base remains there for the future. However, that's exactly what the billionaires are NOT doing. Their insatiable greed is UNsustainable, also in the literal sense (exponential compound interest). They deplete/destroy the resource -- the economy. So I don't understand why you reply to my critique of billionaire predators that "we are all predators -- we all eat". Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
