It's on the internet. It came from the time that Hitler was imprisoned and from conversations. I don't usually use Hitler as a metaphor because although he used the Western Science metaphors as the excuse for all kinds of things, he did it to others and not to us. They dig around in that sewer and I have enough here prior to 1940. Frankly, that material is, like the Stalinist material on the kulaks or Pol Pot, so toxic that I usually leave it alone. However you can look in plenty of texts on the history of medicine for scientists using natives and soldiers as guinea pigs for untested serums and theories. Mengele is just an extension of that rationale to the absurd. But we believe a pattern or an abstraction is the root and that things that are toxic should be limited from the beginning. Smallpox and Yellow Fever both have dubious histories of human experimentation. Another are the Syphilis experiments at Tuskegee and the secret sterilization programs on the Indian reservations that sterilized 40% of the men and women living on the reservations in the U.S. That was stopped in 1978 by an act of Congress. The story with the Swiss about the stealing of the Gypsy Children is another extension of that same toxic approach. For the beginnings of these you could start with the article on John Locke in the book "Philosophers On Race, Critical Essays" with the article by Kathy Squadrito titled "Locke and the Dispossession of the American Indian." Blackwell and then move to the massive tome by Professor Ben Kiernan called "Blood and Soil, A world History of Genocide and Extermination from Sparta to Darfur" Yale Univ. Press. Another excellent book is by Robert E. Bieder, Science Encounters the Indian, 1820-1880, University of Oklahoma Press. All available on Amazon.
I googled Hitler and American Indians and found these quotes, Frankly they are talking about me and the fact that had these policies been successful neither my grandfather, grandmother or my sister or my cousins or my daughter would have ever been born. So digging around in graves may be essential but you can look further yourself. Just bear in mind there is a lot of guilt and lies to cover it up. You couldn't make a good comic book with the accurate information about our lives and culture that is available even today. I learned my lessons from the mouths of my Elders. Books go out of print and disappear while lies are republished. Here are two quotes I found. You can google too. REH Hitlers War Aims Vol2 where he is quoted as saying in respect of clearing the steppes of Russians and Ukranians with the ultimate result being "to Germanise this country by the immigration of Germans and to look upon the natives as Redskins." ie. to annihilate them and to move them off their homelands. "Adolf Hitler", John Toland, Publisher: Doubleday & Company, Inc., Garden City, New York 1976. "Hitler's concept of concentration camps as well as the practicality of genocide owed much, so he claimed, to his studies of English and United States history. He admired the camps for Boer prisoners in South Africa and for the Indians in the wild West; and often praised to his inner circle the efficiency of America's extermination-by starvation and uneven combat-of the red savages who could not be tamed by captivity." Pg 702 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christoph Reuss Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Futurework] Keynes the convert REH wrote: > Hitler used the same examples of our concentrations camps in > the state of Georgia with my people to justify his. Can you provide a reference (Hitler speech or book) on that? I thought the "model" Hitler used was the Armenian genocide. Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
