What we do is precisely what I did on this list. Say, yes, I am a protectionist and will make trade offs to protect my family, my community and my city. And don't shrink or cower when the "globalistas" say but that is surely yesterday's story, don't you know that you will be driving down growth, don't you know that you will end up a third world nation? Smile, and say why don't we talk about it. It's all about balance. It's all about enough. It's all about providing a space for citizens where personal development can trump economic development, not always but enough. It's all about creating sustainable living opportunities for most, not just for some. Etc.
You know what to say. Arthur -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:03 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Tremble, Banks, Tremble Thanks Arthur, I agree with Lawry about what you wrote. It is clear succinct and humane. Now what do we do about it? REH -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:11 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Tremble, Banks, Tremble I am a protectionist. I try to protect my family, my community, my city, etc. I am sure that you are too. I am willing to trade off economic gains for security and a range of social and esthetic reasons. I support building codes. And heritage designations. So why is "protectionist" such a bad word? We have embarked on a program of short term gain for long term pain. Prices are lower on almost all products. Yes. Produced by prison labour, or child labour, or non-union labour, and in conditions where health and safety laws are not like ours, environmental laws , etc. This really isn't trade with China. It is buying low cost products from China and them taking our IOUs. At some point this has got to come to an end. At the end we will have gone beyond hollowing out our mfg sector. We have lost design capability in many areas. We are buying products that we don't fully understand how they are made. Our craftsman have been retired and there is no one around to take their place since there are no jobs. I am overstating the case but this is what trading with super low cost countries leads to. I agree to trade. Trade with countries that have somewhat similar laws and protections. We have really been following Lenin's dictum: "A capitalist will sell you the rope you later use to hang him with". I hate to echo so much of what has been said by others but it really seems that the elites have sold out the working class. It gets worse. Tune into late night radio and the hustlers are trying to get the newly impoverished to rush out and buy gold. Get it before ....just get it. Looks like a new bubble. So walking away from homes and jobs, take a try on the casino of gold. We should be governing for the long term good of our citizens, not for the short term bottom line of corporations. Sometimes they coincide, this time they are diverging, strongly. arthur -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:43 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Tremble, Banks, Tremble Interesting. Do you believe that there should be no NAFTA or the other International Agreements that have caused the loss of jobs to go overseas? How would you have handled it? Like the Japanese farmers? Our farmers have the same problems even with the subsidies and how about the subsidizing of energy companies for the status quo. What are your suggestions? REH -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:05 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Tremble, Banks, Tremble Google Clinton Wal-Mart China and you will see just what nice folks the Clinton's are. Hillary on the Board of Walmart while "first lady" in Arkansas. Pres Clinton touting the promise of opening trade with China, meanwhile Walmart is one of the first to get product from China. Walmart in a profit squeeze was desperate to get goods at lower cost and so China became the place to get low cost product. And what of American workers? Hmm. No not a mensch at all. Slick willie was a name that was well earned. Smart. But then again shysters are often smart. Arthur -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 3:34 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Tremble, Banks, Tremble Agreed but if someone removes the struts from a bridge to allow more traffic and puts in place the building of larger struts to accommodate the traffic and the next administration refuses to do the work and sells the materials off for the upper classes nine houses in nine countries and naked ladies be served at parties on the backs of European waiters, then the blame for the original removal is specious. Arthur. Clinton had a whole plan to work through the problems of NAFTA and the market but Busy trashed the plans and went for the cheap thrill. I would trust Clinton again with the economy because although he's an old hound when it comes to sex, otherwise he's a "mensch". The others launch armies as orgasms and their economics is faux. Fake leather from China. REH PS. Thanks Mike for the article. 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