One economist who brings the environment into economics is Herman Daly.  You 
might take a look at hm -- e.g. Beyond Growth.

Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darryl or Natalia 
  To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:48 PM
  Subject: [Futurework] Ocean Thermal Energy Conservation


  Before the Keynes discussions, and ensuing insults, emails were quite 
interesting around the topics of mind and sustainable economies. July 4, I was 
listening to Sir Nicholas Stern speaking on David Suzuki's new CBC series on 
protection of the biosphere. Some may know Stern was chief economist at the 
World Bank 3 years ago, and has now come back to L.S.E. He feels that it is an 
analytical intellectual mistake to separate environment from economic growth; 
that we must work on the two together. Below, I have posted his 3 year old 
recommendation, but since that time he feels there is greater urgency to reduce 
our per capita carbon footprint even more. As he said, Pearl Harbor was urgent, 
why not this? That we can't wait for the painful experience of it to tell us 
we're doing it wrong, for it will be too late. Blood shouldn't be the 
motivator, yet we're unwilling to acknowledge what's happening at 1C--deserts, 
oceans and forests changing so rapidly. Next century, there's a 50/50 chance we 
could be facing 5C greater temperatures, not seen for 30 million years. 

  He discussed some solutions; geothermal, tidal, even nuclear for those who 
find it viable. Carbon reduction by legislation, taxation. That it's toxic to 
put a price on carbon, but it's essential. He feels it's a deep market failure 
not to put a price on current oil generated energies, and that regulations 
reduce emissions.

  One of the websites I visited had comments posted below Stern's own, and 
there were the expected conspiracy theorists debunking global warming. One 
fellow voiced concern that reduction of red meat consumption would help reduce 
methane more quickly by up to 1/5 of total. Don't know about that figure; I've 
heard varying ones, but I agree that red meat is an industry that calls for a 
huge reduction. Another fellow discussed Ocean Thermal Energy Conservation 
(OTEC). That sounded really good to me. Abundant, renewable and cheap. Would 
supply a lot of jobs, and it might help cool down the oceans a bit, too, if we 
got moving on it now.

  Ocean acidification and warming are the top two concerns of oceanographers 
today. Sediments (chiefly from fertilizers) and overfishing come in second, 
then non-biodegradables, as in plastic trash. A new book by Alana Mitchell 
sounds interesting called "Sea Sick"-- focuses on coral life at risk, and 
coastal dead zones increase. Findings about how quickly life is going to 
disappear without healthy oceans and forests are making oceanographers puke, 
literally.

  I think that things can be depressing when they are uncertain; when fear 
takes over from an inability to act. We have a pretty good idea of what's to 
come, and we have knowledge to act by. What we need is collective will to force 
government to act responsibly. 

  So, anyone amongst us experienced at world petitions?

  Natalia


  >From 2006, found at:   http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6098362.stm
   

  The world has to act now on climate change or face devastating economic 
consequences, according to a report compiled by Sir Nicholas Stern for the UK 
government. 
  Here are the key points of the review written by the former chief economist 
of the World Bank. 


  TEMPERATURE
  a.. Carbon emissions have already pushed up global temperatures by half a 
degree Celsius 
  a.. If no action is taken on emissions, there is more than a 75% chance of 
global temperatures rising between two and three degrees Celsius over the next 
50 years 
  a.. There is a 50% chance that average global temperatures could rise by five 
degrees Celsius 

  ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
  a.. Melting glaciers will increase flood risk 
  a.. Crop yields will decline, particularly in Africa 
  a.. Rising sea levels could leave 200 million people permanently displaced 
  a.. Up to 40% of species could face extinction 
  a.. There will be more examples of extreme weather patterns 

  ECONOMIC IMPACT
  a.. Extreme weather could reduce global gross domestic product (GDP) by up to 
1% 
  a.. A two to three degrees Celsius rise in temperatures could reduce global 
economic output by 3% 
  a.. If temperatures rise by five degrees Celsius, up to 10% of global output 
could be lost. The poorest countries would lose more than 10% of their output 
  a.. In the worst case scenario global consumption per head would fall 20% 
  a.. To stabilise at manageable levels, emissions would need to stabilise in 
the next 20 years and fall between 1% and 3% after that. This would cost 1% of 
GDP 

  OPTIONS FOR CHANGE
  a.. Reduce consumer demand for heavily polluting goods and services 
  a.. Make global energy supply more efficient 
  a.. Act on non-energy emissions - preventing further deforestation would go a 
long way towards alleviating this source of carbon emissions 
  a.. Promote cleaner energy and transport technology, with non-fossil fuels 
accounting for 60% of energy output by 2050 

  GOVERNMENT RESPONSE
  a.. Create a global market for carbon pricing 
  a.. Extend the European Emissions Trading Scheme (EETS) globally, bringing in 
countries such as the US, India and China 
  a.. Set new target for EETS to reduce carbon emissions by 30% by 2020 and 60% 
by 2050 
  a.. Pass a bill to enshrine carbon reduction targets and create a new 
independent body to monitor progress 
  a.. Create a new commission to spearhead British company investment in green 
technology, with the aim of creating 100,000 new jobs 
  a.. Former US vice-president Al Gore will advise the government on the issue 
  a.. Work with the World Bank and other financial institutions to create a 
$20bn fund to help poor countries adjust to climate change challenges 
  a.. Work with Brazil, Papua New Guinea and Costa Rica to promote sustainable 
forestry and prevent deforestation 








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