Well, no. I'm not saying any of that because that is not what I said. It makes me uncomfortable when you "rephrase" what I've said as a question about something completely different -- as if there is no possibility of communicating, which after all starts with listening. What I said is that lists do not redesign anything. People on lists can collaborate to redesign; but only if those people choose to collaborate. If they choose to have a rambling conversation about current events and various and sundry ideas, that's fine too.
Alright, then. Here is a question, motivated by the below quotation from E.F. Schumacher's Small is Beautiful. First the quotation: "That soul destroying, meaningless, mechanical, monotonous, moronic work is an insult to human nature which much necessarily and inevitably produce either escapism or aggression, and that no amount of 'bread and circuses' can compensate for the damage done -- these are facts which are neither denied or acknowledged but are met with an unbreakable conspiracy of silence -- because to deny them would be too obviously absurd and to acknowledge them would condemn the central preoccupation of modern society as a crime against humanity." The question. Two questions actually: In the forty years since that was written, has the absurdity of denying the facts so lost its obviousness that hacks like Mr. Reihan Salam can make a career out of churning out inanities like "there is no reason to believe that these armies of servants and nannies won't earn decent wages" or the likes of Andrew Breitbart and his Foxy enablers can build empires from spreading defamatory falsehoods and the most we can expect from our convictionless 'leaders' is an apology? Isn't that then a demonstration of exactly the "escapism or aggression" that Schumacher warned against? Honestly, reading Schumacher makes me angry that the "good people" are still groping around, refusing to even acknowledge the elephant that he described clearly and eloquently so long ago. "Oh, the sky is blue, you say? But how do you really know? You'll have to explain your radical notions in terms the ordinary person in the street can understand. The ordinary person, that is, who seems to have no difficulty comprehending lies, innuendos, bromides and dog whistles." On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote: > Are you saying that no one on this list has any experience putting together > a community with jobs and school and community center? That no one has > had to create a whole community experience in collaboration with public and > private sectors? Practical experience not just theory. Share that > experience and not to argue over it. Organizing the intent of the community > with input from everyone, cooperation with other communities and health > service for all? Or is everything here just based around profit as the > sole motivation for doing anything? What about sharing experiences? > Coming up with a trigger question to start it off. Discussing the question > from every angle and then making some kind of structure to define the > problem and the relationship of its parts. Once that's done how about some > kind of discussion of a plan or order in which the problems would be solved > and a community arrived at. Sim City? My grandson does this on the > computer but he has no knowledge. How about everyone here? All of that > knowledge and no program? Just some thoughts off of the top of my head as > I do the laundry. > > REH > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandwichman > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 6:32 PM > To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION > Subject: Re: [Futurework] Servants and Nannies? > >> I still contend that this list should Redesign work and not just do the > same >> old 19th century word games. > > That is all very well, Ray, but LISTS do not redesign work -- any more > than they compose symphonies or paint pictures. I've done my part in > terms of designing an institution and a calibration tool to underwrite > the transition AWAY from 19th century wet dreams about servants and > nannies. > > The transition TO autonomous creativity I will leave to the > specialists in that field -- not because it doesn't interest me but > because it seems I seem to be the only one with the patience to listen > both critically and empathetically to those over-intellectualized > philosophers whose outmoded platitudes, if they don't actually rule > the world, at least drown out any possible alternatives with their > rude coughing. > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Ray Harrell <[email protected]> wrote: >> One of the great pleasures of my life is working on the Beethoven >> Hammerklavier Sonata. It's a life's work. >> >> I was working many years ago with one of the great opera coaches, an > African >> American woman named Sylvia Lee. She was married to the conductor Henry >> Lee and because there was no work for black coaches in America she moved > to >> Germany to Munich to play and coach for the agents administering the >> rebuilding of the German opera houses after the war. She became such a >> success that she was later picked by Maestro Max Rudolf to come to >> Philadelphia to the prestigious Curtis Institute of Music to be his opera >> coach. Ms. Lee would take trips to Washington, D.C. where she would play >> for the Frederick Wilkerson studio. "Wilkie" was considered a great > voice >> teacher and was an African American/Cherokee. I was singing in the Army >> Chorus at the time and studying with Wilkie and coached with Ms. Lee. An >> amazing experience. One day Ms. Lee took me to the Library of Congress >> where she looked all through the stacks for a certain book. Finally she >> found it and sat down to read. I was basically just along to accompany > her >> not knowing why she was there. >> >> I heard her exclaim and say "Ray, here it is! You must come read this." >> It was a passage about Beethoven going to some rich aristocratic SOB > asking >> for a stipend. The Aristocrat asked what he thought he would need. He >> said: "I understand you give Goethe______. That would be fine for me as >> well." To which the Aristocrat answered: "You Herr Beethoven are NO >> Goethe!" Later when the man's carriage came down the road, Beethoven was >> walking with Goethe and Goethe got over into the ditch to allow the > carriage >> to go by. Beethoven refused to step aside and made the man drive his >> carriage into the ditch instead and as he rode by, Beethoven looked the > man >> in the face and said, "you see, I AM no Goethe!" >> >> Ms. Lee had dragged me to the Library of Congress just for me to read that >> passage about the composer of the Hammerklavier. The man who after WWII >> was the hero that brought the German people back from the abyss of Adolf >> Hitler and all of this after he was dead. The man who wrote the >> Hammerklavier when he was totally deaf. >> >> The stories about Beethoven and the wealthy and the local Burgermeisters > are >> legion. He told them that their grandchildren would be embarrassed to >> admit their name because he would write something bad about them in his >> musical scores or have a musical joke around their name if they didn't > treat >> the art properly. Remember that when Napoleon is praised there is always >> the Beethoven Third Symphony with a destroyed dedication to Napoleon > because >> Napoleon betrayed Democracy and made himself Emperor. That was the first >> thing I learned about Napoleon. That Beethoven spoke truth to power and >> made a public show of changing the dedication of a great masterwork > because >> the man betrayed the people. >> >> How many butlers and nannies are latent great composers, painters, > singers, >> dancers trapped in the drudgery of the English Manor system? The same >> system here in the American South that trapped the black Artists of Africa >> and made them spend their lives chopping cotton and being raped by their > so >> called "masters." >> >> A woman who was on the street and not afraid to admit her story and how >> Wilkie, my Black Washington voice teacher, pulled her out of the horror > and >> put her to work singing and writing is Maya Angelou the great American > poet. >> Wilkie used to say: "How many great voices are trapped in the South?" He >> rescued quite a few as they filled the opera houses of Europe and the Jazz >> halls of America. He was the coach for Gielgud's 1964 production of >> Hamlet, the movie Porgy and Bess with Dorothy Dandridge and taught Paul >> Robeson, Richard Stillwell and Roberta Flack. >> >> I still contend that this list should Redesign work and not just do the > same >> old 19th century word games. The real diamonds are human beings. >> Economists cast these diamonds before the swine and say that it's nature. >> Well crawl out of the hole folks. Science today is consigning these >> economists to the same hole as the over intellectualized philosophers of > the >> 19th century. They love to play and talk amongst themselves but rarely >> take a serious look at the whole problem and how to design genuine > pleasure >> and not the hokey "ownership society" shallow shit. >> >> REH >> >> Here's an URL that Mike Hollinshead sent me. It's interesting: REH >> http://canadastonehenge.com/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandwichman >> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:01 PM >> To: Keith Hudson; RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION >> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Servants and Nannies? >> >> "there is no reason to believe that these armies of servants and >> nannies won't earn decent wages..." -- Annalee Newitz >> >> Such an oddly magical statement of untruth. There are plenty of >> reasons to expect less than decent wages, beginning with current wages >> levels for servants and child care workers, continuing on to trends in >> wages over the last thirty years and concluding with the projected >> elimination of other options resulting in a buyers' market for servant >> labor. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Keith Hudson >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> From Forbes magazine, 23 July >>> >>> Will Your Children Grow Up To Be Servants And Nannies? >>> >>> Reihan Salam >>> >>> >>> >>> Why the labor market of the future will be even more polarized. >>> >>> Will large numbers of today's children grow up to become servants and >>> nannies in the homes of the digital bourgeoisie? There is good reason to >>> believe that the answer is yes. >>> >>> The most pressing issue of the day remains sky-high unemployment. There >> is, >>> however, almost no consensus about how to think about the the depth of > the >>> problems facing the U.S. labor market. Many believe that the staggering >>> unemployment rate is purely cyclical. Karl Smith, an economist at the UNC >>> School of Government, has written a post on "the myth of structural >>> unemployment", arguing that "the structure of the American economy hasn't >>> changed that much in the last 24 months." >>> >>> Yet one wonders if the last 24 months are the right place to look. In >> Wired >>> for Innovation, MIT economist Erik Brynjolffson and Adam Saunders of >> Wharton >>> offer an insightful portrait of how the U.S. economy has evolved over the >>> last decade. Their analysis strongly suggests that the shift toward a > more >>> IT-intensive economy will lead to even more polarization of the U.S. > labor >>> market. Brynjolffson has dubbed the "Great Recession" a "Great >>> Restructuring," adding gravitas to arguments advanced by thinkers like >> Jeff >>> Jarvis and Richard Florida who've argued in a similar vein. "As growth >>> resumes," Brynjolffson writes, "millions of people will find that their >> old >>> jobs are gone forever." >>> >>> Smith is undoubtedly right that we can't neglect the cyclical dimension, >> and >>> that journalists and would-be visionaries have a tendency to grasp at >>> sweeping rather than narrowly tailored explanations for high > unemployment. >>> In Smith's view, for example, construction employment will likely > recover, >>> as the building boom of the 2000s was not out of step with the earlier >>> building boom of the 1970s. But consider the following counterfactual. As >>> Barry LePatner argued in Broken Buildings, Busted Budgets, the >>> trillion-dollar U.S. construction sector is unusually fragmented and >>> undercapitalized, and thus ripe for consolidation. Economic as well as >>> environmental imperatives could drive consolidation, leading to a >>> construction sector that is leaner, more skill-intensive and more >>> IT-intensive. This would mean far higher productivity. And it would also >>> mean that the labor market position of less-skilled construction workers >>> would deteriorate. >>> >>> There will, of course, always be a place for less-skilled workers, albeit >> at >>> low wages. At a certain point, wages in the informal sector might look >> like >>> a more attractive alternative. Discouraged workers who've stopped looking >>> for work in the mainstream economy would, in this scenario, remain on the >>> margins. Indeed, the steady deterioration in the labor market position of >>> less-skilled men is one key reason why male labor force participation has >>> declined so markedly over the last 30 years. The pressing question is >>> whether we are likely to see this trend accelerate. >>> >>> Between 1973 and 1995 U.S. labor productivity grew at an average rate of >>> 1.4% a year, a rate that means living standards would take 50 years to >>> double. In contrast, the 2.7% growth rate in productivity from 1948 to >> 1972 >>> doubled productivity in 26 years. And that earlier period is remembered > as >>> an economic Golden Age, when working and middle class Americans saw >>> extraordinary progress in their living standards and the U.S. economy was >>> without peer. >>> >>> From 1995 to 2000 the productivity growth rate increased to 2.6% per > year, >>> almost matching the Golden Age. As Brynjolffson and Saunders observe, > this >>> productivity boom was traced to the deployment of IT investment across a >>> wide range of sectors, particularly retail. The more interesting >>> productivity boom, however, occurred between 2001 and 2003, when the >>> productivity growth rate hit 3.6% per year. This productivity spike was >>> driven less by investments in IT than by investments in organizational >>> capital, a catch-all term for productivity-enhancing business practices. >>> >>> The authors observe a sharp divergence between firms that successfully >>> transformed themselves into effective digital organizations and those > that >>> did not. Very bluntly, digital organizations flourish while others wither >>> and die. Brynjolffson and Wharton economist Lorin Hitt identified the >>> defining characteristics of digital organizations, and the most striking >>> were those centered on valuing the strongest performers within an >>> organization: In digital organizations, employees are empowered to make >>> decisions and they are subject to performance-based incentives. > Recruiting >>> and investing in top performers is a high if not the highest priority. >>> >>> The logical implication is that the transition to digital organizations > is >> a >>> recipe for even more inequality. In "Performance Pay and Wage > Inequality," >>> economists Thomas Lemieux, W. Bentley MacLeod, and Daniel Parent maintain >>> that the increasing use of performance pay can account for "nearly all of >>> the top-end growth in wage dispersion". Assuming this pattern holds, > there >>> is no reason to believe that we will see any decrease in wage dispersion. >>> Quite the opposite: The most skilled workers will cluster in digital >>> organizations, and wages at the top will continue to expand at a healthy >>> clip. >>> >>> This raises the question of what will happen to those trapped in the low >> end >>> of the labor market. Recently, the cultural critic Annalee Newitz offered >> a >>> provocative hypothesis: "We may return to arrangements that look a lot >> like >>> what people had over a century ago," Newitz writes. As more skilled women >>> enter the workforce, and as the labor market position of millions of >>> less-skilled workers deteriorate, we'll see more servants and nannies in >>> middle-class homes. While this future might seem disturbing at first, >> there >>> is no reason to believe that these armies of servants and nannies won't >> earn >>> decent wages. But let's just say that this isn't the future most of us >>> envision for our children. >>> >>> Reihan Salam is a policy advisor at e21 and a fellow at the New America >>> Foundation. The co-author of Grand New Party: How Republicans Can Win the >>> Working Class and Save the American Dream, he writes a weekly column for >>> Forbes. for Forbes. >>> >>> Keith Hudson, Saltford, England >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Futurework mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandwichman >> _______________________________________________ >> Futurework mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Futurework mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework >> > > > > -- > Sandwichman > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > -- Sandwichman _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
