This is an interesting question and one I've discussed several times in my own private list. My conclusion (so far) is that the rich of America increasingly don't need the rest of America but that, in this industrial, metal-bashing, increasingly automated mass production era, they still need growing mass markets -- such as in China, in which they've invested a lot of money so far. But those countries will also grow their new rich who will also want new markets. Sooner or later (if resources, and fossil fuels last out -- which they won't) the whole world could be full up of mass produced consumer goods just as Europe and America is today. So the rich will then be in as serious a condition as the rest (if the rest exist! -- see further).

The rich themselves could then no longer exist unless, in the meantime, a new energy and production era grows in the meantime. I'm in no doubts myself what this new era will be. Firstly we will develop biological energy systems to replace fossil fuels. This will probably be the production of hydrogen and probably beginning to be developed within ten years. This will enable local communities to become more self-supporting than at present. Secondly, by means of customized DNA, we will be able to grow consumer goods with local resources. They'll be very simple at first and the new production era of complex goods like those of today will probably be at least two or three centuries in the making, just like indsutrial-consumer revolution. However, it will need a far higher general standard of education than at present with a considerable proportion of highly-skilled specialist scientists in every community/firm.

Unless the advanced countries apply dynamite to their present state-run education systems and continue to allow only a small privately educated minority of children (7% in the UK) to become a dominant elite (increasingly of scientists also), then we will have an increasingly divided society and, in due course, two species. This is no different from has happened so far (at least half a dozen times) so far in hominid evolution.

Keith

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Wall Street Journal August 05, 2010

Do the Rich Need the Rest of America?

By Robert Frank

As stocks boomed, the wealthy bounced back. And while the Main Street economy was wracked by high unemployment and the real-estate crash, the wealthywhose financial fates were more tied to capital markets than jobs and housespicked themselves up, brushed themselves off and started buying luxury goods again.

Who knows what the next few months and years will bring. But one thing seems clear: the economic fate of Richistan seems increasingly separate from the fate of the U.S.

Some argue that the decoupling has gone even further. Michael Lind, a policy director for the Economic Growth Program at the New American Foundation, argues in Salon that <http://www.salon.com/news/us_economy/index.html?story=/news/feature/2010/07/27/american_people_obsolete>the American rich no longer need the rest of America.

He says the wealthy increasingly earn their fortunes with overseas labor, selling to overseas consumers and managing financial transactions that have little to do with the rest of the U.S. A member of the elite can make money from factories in China that sell to consumers in India, while relying entirely or almost entirely on immigrant servants at one of several homes around the country.

He adds:
If the American rich increasingly do not depend for their wealth on American workers and American consumers or for their safety on American soldiers or police officers, then it is hardly surprising that so many of them should be so hostile to paying taxes to support the infrastructure and the social programs that help the majority of the American people. The rich dont need the rest anymore.

Some would argue this is a vast overstatement. The U.S. remains the largest consumer market in the world and still matters to Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and Lloyd Blankfein alike. The American wealthy benefit greatly from the countrys legal system and business transparency, not to mention its armed forces.

Yet the increasingly global elite do seem to be forming something of their own financial culture, unattached to any single nation or set of rules, and increasingly free to move their money and resources (and tax dollars) wherever they are treated best.

Rather than having a second home in Richistan, an increasing number of rich people seem to be moving their money there full time.

Do you think the rest of America matters anymore to the rich?






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