At 23:35 23/08/2010 +0200, Christoph Reuss wrote:

(KH)
> Darwinian evolution is quite simple. 'Fitness' is purely
> a numbers game. The characteristics of parents who produce more than a
> replacement number of children survive over the longer term vis-a-vis
> parents who produce less than a replacement number of children.

(CR)
Darwinism is about the characteristics rather than the numbers (with the
numbers alone, "survival of the fittest" would be a tautology).

Yes. Nevertheless, it was the numbers argument (fertility rates) supplied by Malthus's hypothesis that transformed Darwin from being a mere observer of natural history (though an extraordinarily avid one) into a major scientist.

(CR)
However, today these characteristics are pretty different from what is usually
meant by (social or physical) fitness!  Sometimes even opposite.

It would seem so if one takes a harsh, ad hominem view of the types who happen to be doing well just at the present time. While I would cheerfully string up one or two bankers by way of example to others (or at least bankrupt them and give them jobs as road-sweepers) they're no different from many others in different sectors of life throughout history who've proved to be menaces. Besides it's difficult -- I would say impossible -- to precisely describe just what the errant characteristics are and whether they might not have been useful in the past in different circumstances.

Keith


Chris




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