Do you both admit that the term "land"  is an economic concept and not a
reality?

 

Then could you question whether there might be more "just" concepts that are
better for the whole of humanity as well as the individual parts, the planet
and the rest of life than the current concept and the system based upon it?

 

REH

 

 

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:28 PM
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'; 'Keith Hudson'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] U.S. Bails Out Major Credit Unions - WSJ.com

 

I often wonder the extent to which the rise of the 2 person worker household
(women entering the workforce in great numbers) contributed to the bidding
up in the price of land and therefore housing.  The great paradox might be
that rising unemployment will be one way for land values to settle again.
And as employment rises, well land values will rise again.

 

arthur

 

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harry Pollard
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:10 PM
To: 'Keith Hudson'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] U.S. Bails Out Major Credit Unions - WSJ.com

 

Keith,

 

About half of each bank loan was "secured" by land-value - a notoriously
volatile value that would never be accepted as collateral back in the time
of prudent banking.

 

Improvement values normally don't much alter, but land-value can plunge - as
it did. When economists melded land into capital rather than regarding it as
a separate function, they lost the capacity to analyze the situation. Thus,
we had a "housing" bubble rather than a "land-value" bubble.

 

The only way out of the mess is to allow land prices to collapse, but that
is not politically possible. Rather, the economists/politicians make serious
efforts to maintain land prices thereby ensuring we enter a long period of
stagnation. (They don't know they are maintaining land prices, but there is
so much they don't know.)

 

Perhaps the breakup of Obama's economic team is resignation in the face of a
situation they don't at all understand. In any event, back in academia, they
can again be pundits who can offer their certainties with little argument.

 

Harry

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:19 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] U.S. Bails Out Major Credit Unions - WSJ.com

 

At 01:42 26/09/2010 -0400, you wrote:

More on U.S.  banking problems - some think it's directly related to the
bursting of the housing bubble. 

Barry

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703499604575512254063682236.ht
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Yes, indeed. This is another instance of the US government (and ultimately
all Americans) paying for the ineptitude of a (high) proportion of the banks
and credit unions that validated the mis-selling of sub-prime mortgages by
crooks. And, of those local banks and credit unions that have survived
without immediately going broke, they're now finding that non-payments of
the remaining mortgages are continuing. They're now foreclosing on those
properties, but the process is being jammed in the courts because there are
so many layers of derivatives wrapped around the initial mortgages that a
huge backlog is building up. Too many deficiencies and illegalities are
found in one or other of those layers that, by the time they're unwound
(very few, if any, so far), houses generally will have lost even more value
with even more negative equity and inability to pay. (I don't know what's
happening in America but in the UK even the highest priced houses in London
that still did well all through 2008/10 are now following the rest and
falling in value.) We're now at the beginning of the perfect storm that
started in 2008 and, recently, appeared to be resting awhile -- without the
levels of unemployment of the 1930s -- yet! But, like tornadoes that touch
shore briefly and then move out to sea and build up further strength for a
while, we haven't seen anywhere near the worst yet. 

For those who want to read the WSJ story directly, I follow with it below.
It's really peanuts compared with the still-remaining liabilities of the
major banks -- 'cos they've got commercial property failures on their books,
too.

Keith
 
<<<<
CREDIT UNIONS BAILED OUT

US backs $30 billion in bonds to stabilize key institutions; subprime legacy

Mark Maremont and Victoria McGrane

Two years after the peak of the financial crisis, the federal government
swooped in to stabilize a crucial part of the credit-union sector battered
by losses on subprime mortgages.

Regulators announced Friday a rescue and revamping of the nation's wholesale
credit union system, underpinned by a federal guarantee valued at $30
billion or more. Wholesale credit unions don't deal with the general public
but provide essential back-office services to thousands of other credit
unions across the U.S. The majority of retail credit unions are sound, but
they will have to shoulder the losses through special assessments over the
next decade. 

Friday's moves include the seizure of three wholesale credit unions, plus an
unusual plan by government officials to manage $50 billion of troubled
assets inherited from failed institutions. To help fund the rescue, the
National Credit Union Administration plans to issue $30 billion to $35
billion in government-guaranteed bonds, backed by the shaky mortgage-related
assets.

Officials said the plan won't cost taxpayers any money. Still, it marks the
latest intervention by the U.S. government into a financial system weakened
by the real-estate bust. Bad bets on mortgage-backed securities have now
killed five of the nation's 27 wholesale credit unions since March 2009. The
federal government, which now controls about 70% of the total assets at such
credit unions, said the surviving institutions will be reined in so that
they take fewer risks with their investments.

"Previously, we stabilized the system, and now we're resolving the problem
and reforming the system," said Debbie Matz, chairman of the National Credit
Union Administration, the U.S. agency overseeing credit unions.

Members United Corporate Federal Credit Union in Warrenville, Ill.,
Southwest Corporate Federal Credit Union of Plano, Texas, and Constitution
Corporate Federal Credit Union, Wallingford, Conn., which had a total of
$19.67 billion in assets as of July, were taken into conservatorship by
federal regulators.

Wholesale credit unions, also known as corporate credit unions, invest money
for retail credit unions and provide them with check clearing and other
services. Since the start of 2008, 66 retail unions have failed, compared
with more than 290 banks or savings institutions. Credit unions are
member-owned cooperatives that act much like banks.

Under federal rules, wholesale credit unions were supposed to invest only in
safe, liquid assets. But some chased higher returns by loading up on
securities backed by subprime mortgages or other risky loans. Their
portfolios were decimated by the mortgage meltdown.

Last year, regulators seized the two largest wholesale credit unions, U.S.
Central Federal Credit Union, based in Lenexa, Kansas, and Western Corporate
Federal Credit Union, San Dimas, Calif., after finding their losses were
much larger than previously reported.

Losses on the mortgage-backed securities held by the five seized credit
unions are expected by regulators to total about $15 billion. Wiping out the
capital of the failed institutions will cover a chunk of those losses. But
the remaining $7 billion to $9.2 billion eventually will be passed along to
the nation's 7,445 federally insured credit unions in the form of future
assessments. 

The changes won't immediately affect customers of retail credit unions
throughout the U.S. But it is possible that assessments on the industry
could result in higher interest rates on loans and lower payouts on
deposits, if credit unions can't otherwise cover their obligations.

Bert Ely, a financial-industry consultant in Alexandria, Va., said
regulators share some of the blame for the resulting mess, because wholesale
credit unions were allowed to pursue a strategy that was "viable only
because of what clearly has turned out to be excessive risk-taking."

Ms. Matz, the nation's top credit-union regulator, said the investment
losses reflect "unprecedented economic times" and "bad decisions" by
regulators, credit-union managers and board members "by heavily
over-concentrating in mortgage-backed securities."

New regulations issued by the NCUA on Friday will make oversight of
wholesale credit unions much tougher, she said, and are meant to fix any
regulatory shortcomings.

As part of the plan, regulators will eventually wind down the operations of
the five failed credit unions.

Together they had about $50 billion in shaky mortgage-backed securities on
their books, according to Larry Fazio, NCUA's deputy executive director. 

Based on current market values, those securities are worth roughly half of
their face value, representing a potential loss of $25 billion.

In an effort to minimize and spread out losses that must be absorbed by the
credit-union industry, regulators said they will move all the battered
securities into a good bank-bad bank structure. NCUA officials will manage
the $50 billion portfolio, or "bad bank," of the failed wholesale
institutions.

Federal regulators will allow the remaining "good bank" operations at the
credit unions to continue for about two years while retail credit unions
wind down their relationships with the failed institutions.

Friday's moves could deepen tensions between regulators and retail credit
unions that withstood the financial crisis and resent having to bear
financial costs caused by the mistakes of wholesale institutions.
>>>>

Keith Hudson, Saltford, England 

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