You guys should start by contacting Mike Hollingshead and reading his
unpublished manuscript on the Myth of Canada.   Then you should read
Lawrence Levine's Massey Lectures at Harvard on "Highbrow/Lowbrow The
Emergence of Cultural Hierarchy in America" and then go to "The Winner Take
All Society by Frank and Cook for the economic history.     There were
66,000 opera houses in America at the end of the 19th century.   1,300 in
the farm state of Iowa alone.     The economic histories about agrarianism
and the highly trained peasants who came to America from just about
everyplace except for England who kept their serfs almost as slaves.   There
were Dutch opera houses in Iowa,  Middle European opera houses in Kansas and
Missouri and even Oklahoma had Indian Opera houses where the wealthy
Indians, before they were disenfranchised and even murdered for their money
by the Sooners.    The pisspoor gold miners of Colorado rioted when they
were cheated out of a few bars of La Sonnambula by a traveling troupe at the
Teller Opera House in Central City.   

 

My point is simple.   If those opera houses gave one performance a year by
their local company, there were jobs for 66,000 tenors in late 19th century
America.      But of course there were many more than "one" performances by
local repertory companies and they also built the sets, constructed the
technology and worked in the local hardware stores.     Everyone did service
jobs.      Everyone had been, within one or two generations, trained
servants.    That's why even the trained, literate, house slaves in New
Orleans had tickets alongside the lower classes in the opera capital of
America in the 19th century.   New Orleans.     Not counting bassos,
sopranos, Mezzos, etc.     

 

As culture was absorbed by the wealthy, who themselves had been pisspoor, in
a massive takeover of both time and space with the advent the railroad and
the second industrial revolution,   those service jobs were absorbed by two
things.    First all complex culture in the lower classes  went into the
churches and thus America is culturally fundamentalist, radical right wing
religion down to the present while the wealthy absconded with the high class
European secular culture.      But America before 1880 was founded on a
secular covenant.   You can see it in the village architecture of every
village in New England with the secular Common, like the Common in Boston
and all over New England.     

 

Secondly, the rise of electronics made the poor able to become consumers
without bothering the wealthy in their live performance opera and concert
halls.    The wealthy called that "the cultured class" and their economist
whores even came up with an official name for it.    "Productivity."     

 

As for complex culture and "service" (servants) the  wealthy today consider
themselves to be the "owners" of American Complex Culture  while the poor
are religious.    But t'was not always so, if you knew anything about
American history.    (These folks that I listed were on my board of advisors
and we did quite a lot of research about it at the highest levels.      The
best one could call the assumptions about history here is encased in the
word duplicitous.    Keith is understandable, Harry is California.   Too
much sun and easy living:>)))    

 

The point is simple.      Americans have always done everything.     The
breakdown into simple jobs is 1880s second Industrial Revolution stuff with
primarily the ignorant Irish immigrants who were agrarian and Catholic.
They imprinted on the factory whistle but American resisted standard time
down to 1918.     They were proud of their culture.    They were not
Renaissance Men ala Europe but  "Jacks of all Trades" and inventive.     

 

Yes they were also farmers but not very good at that.   They destroyed the
prairie and created the dustbowl as a result.     They were much better at
doing almost anything including inventing new factory ideas and  singing
opera.     They still do in my home state of Oklahoma where Dame Eva Turner
said she heard the greatest voices on the planet.     

 

Service jobs aren't new.     Until Henry Ford and John Rockefeller, we had
always done everything.      The concept of  "wealth production" is,
however,   strictly for the useless class.     I've come to believe from
Harry that Henry George should have studied C.S. Pierce more seriously.
Pierce was the great philosopher with an Andalusian gypsy wife who saved his
writings when Harvard would have consigned them to the garbage can.
Everyone, who was a real person,  knew that concept of "wealth creation" as
value  was meshugina when it was proposed.    Now we are in a time of mad
hatters and white rabbits and tea parties who make up anything and the
dummies believe it. 

 

REH

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 2:01 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, , EDUCATION; Harry Pollard
Subject: Re: [Futurework] The only exception -- was Living within our means

 

At 15:43 07/10/2010 -0700, Harry wrote:



There is a big argument among Georgist teachers about including service
givers in our course. The difference is of course that after Labor has
labored there is more wealth. After a service giver has labored, there is
less wealth (unless he doesn't eat). We are teaching a science that deals
with the production of wealth.


Well, if Georgists are to be relevant in the modern world then I think that
it's about time that they turned their attention to the services which
hardly existed in Henry George's time when 80-90% of the population were
either agricultural or industrial workers. We now have vast government
services, plus sizeable professional services (with a large chunk of
financial services within it), plus an increasing make-work sector which is
rotating services among itself in what is essentially a surplus part of the
population which is not adding economic value. 




My thinking is that once we [Georgists] have satisfactorily dealt with
production we can turn our attention to services.


But you haven't dealt satisfactorily with production yet! You are still
thinking in terms of Land+Labour+Capital as its exclusive factors. Although
people were, and are, obviously involved in Production, it was and is only
their muscular (or mental) energy that is involved in routinized tasks that
can also be done by machines. The advent of the automated factory for
agricultural and industrial production is essentially Land+Energy+Capital,
just as it is in the natural world  -- Land+Solar energy (directly or
indirectly) + DNA. But both are static systems, as it were. To have movement
and change a fourth factor needs to be added in both cases:
Land+Energy+Capital+Innovation in economics, Land+Solar energy+DNA+Mutations
in nature.

Once you have taken people, as people, out of the production formula (using
robots instead) you can then consider them as real people in the
services/consumption sector where people act fully in the round as people
and transact with one another and will always be required. The
Services/Consumption side of the Production-Consumption equation (a
completely balanced one in normal times) is to do with the way that the
production-made profit is subsequently distributed.

Once you can see my point then we can argue productively!

Keith



Keith Hudson, Saltford, England 

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