Could you send that to Rand Paul.

REH

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Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society.

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.

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Once we were taxed to provide funds for something related to the tax.

I the RAF we had a saying, "If it moves salute it, if it doesn't, paint it".

Now the saying is, "Can we tax it?" with no attempt to relate revenue to a
specific activity.

It sucks.

Harry

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Arthur replied:
> I suggest you take a look at the following.
>
> http://www.arraydev.com/commerce/jibc/9702-05.htm

Unfortunately, this 13-years-old article hardly answers any of the
questions.
You even ask some of these questions (e.g. whether the bit tax should be
progressive) yourself, i.e. you haven't made up your mind yet.
And when you write about a "new tax", it is not clear whether this should
replace the old (income) tax or add to it.  If it replaces it, it won't be
sufficient in the first decades; if it gets added, it won't be accepted.

There's much unclarity in that article.  E.g. when you write that "The bit
tax would not be a user pay tax.", who if not the users should pay it?  Even
if it will be collected at the ISP level, of course the users (ISP
customers) will end up paying this tax.  But not to maximize excertion, that
won't happen on a Bit basis...

There also seems to be a lack of technical background, e.g. when you note
that "Collected by the telecom carriers, satellite networks and cable
systems the revenues would flow directly to the national revenue service of
the respective country."
Did you know that when emails etc. are sent from A to B (even if they are in
the same neighborhood!), these bits pass through many other countries, some
quite distant from A and B, sometimes around the planet?  Why should
countries around the world collect taxes for a communication between
neighbors who have nothing to do with these countries? (This would also mean
that if the transfer happens to pass thru 22 countries, the tax will be
twice as much than if the same amount of data passes thru 11 countries
-- note that the number of countries crossed is not even within the power of
the users!) And in satellite communications, talking of countries is pretty
moot.

And it's ironic to stress the possibilities of tax evasion in the old
economy, when these possibilities would be even greater in bit-taxed
(wireless) global communications.


> http://www.arraydev.com/commerce/JIBC/9806-08.htm

The concrete part about the bit tax is mostly a copy-paste job from the
first article.

Has there been any development of the Bit Tax concept in the last 12 years?
(An eternity in the digital age!)  Or was it buried ~10 years ago...?
Maybe because nobody knew the answers to all those questions...

Chris




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