REH wrote: > Chris, I thank you for the opportunity to clear up the air on these > important issues.
You didn't clear up the air, you distorted and misunderstood my statements -- not even quoting me literally, but with a distorting "summary". There's no use in bickering over several pages when you didn't even care to read or understand what I wrote. Trying to be brief, I correct your 10 points: 1. It was you who claimed that American politics is European. And it is. So I know it better than you do. This also follows from your obvious fundamental misunderstandings about Obama and his party. The key is the anagram from Britain: "PM Tony Blair" --> "I'm Tory Plan B"! 2. To suggest that Obama is a neo-con because of his mother's genes, as you did in the long version of your reply, is absurd and racist. Obama is a neo-con because of who funded and trained him into office and because of his policies and choices of advisors and ministers. 3a. I didn't say that "Health insurance proves that things can be done quickly", but that it wasn't real change. It makes fat-cats richer. 3b. It was you who first used the word parliament. But it doesn't matter how you call it, the process matters. 4. You did mention Jewish individuals, although perhaps you didn't realize that they are. But that doesn't change the fact, nor their actions. Iraq isn't a nation, it's a country with 3 nations crammed together by the British empire. Switzerland is a country with many different systems (cantons) and 4 native languages (I add this just because you asked). As for "systems vs. individuals", you are using double standards. You have attacked Switzerland for the very few Swiss emigrés who took part in the rape of America, but OTOH, you now write that "Just because all of the individuals I named were Jewish, unless I drew that systems parallel, there is no judgment of Judaism. As a matter of fact, von Hayek was Christian and the Jews in the Austrian economic circle were known for their prejudice against Jews until Hitler grouped them all together." You could say the same about those Swiss (some of whom were Jewish, especially in the slave and fur trades), but there you did the opposite. That was my point. I'm not suggesting that prejudice or generalizations are right -- they're wrong. But so are double standards. 5. You misquoted me as complaining that you're "starting a Holocaust Industry" when in fact --au contraire-- I wrote that >> I told you before that it was time for an Indian "holocaust industry". ... i.e. that you SHOULD start one! 6. Sarah Palin is an avowed zionist and Israel-lover, as are other leading figures of the Tea Party. Christian zionism is what US right wing is about. It's the usual strategy of zionism to lead both "sides" so they control the whole debate and pit the masses against each other, fighting over fake differences (non-issues) -- what you called binary systems. And your assertion "Fundamentalists aren't Zionists" must be a joke. You'll hardly find more/worse fundamentalists in any government than in Israel. Some of them make Joerg Haider look like a left-wing loonie. 7. It is a fact of history and of logic that literacy enabled the spreading of knowledge to and among the masses, instead of monopolizing it to the few who can afford private (oral) teachers. But I can understand that a voice teacher is somewhat biased on this question... 8. I did NOT claim that "Non-literate cultures equal ignorance." I wasn't talking about cultures but about the distribution of knowledge within a society (monopolized to a few, or shared by the masses). Even in a non-literate culture, the few can have pretty much knowledge. But that's not enough for reaching wide-spread prosperity in a society. 9. The question was whether you are willing to come to Europe, not whether you can afford it. If you have not visited Europe once in your long life (the army would have been a good opportunity!), I am not to blame. I am poorer than you now, so I'm sorry that I can't pay you the expenses anyway. But as such a famous artist with so many European emigrés among your students, you surely know enough people who can arrange you a paid vacation to Europe. 10. You blame those who stayed in Europe for those who moved to America to rape it. That's true for the kings who sent their armies and settlers, but not for the ordinary citizens who chose to stay in Europe (and clearly most of them were not very rich!). And you can't blame the latter for avoiding 100% of domestic poverty, because that was not up to them, but to those in power. As usual, you're confusing Predators and Producers (also among your own people). You even talk of justice, but lumping together rapists and non-rapists (and even anti-rapists) as you do, is INjustice. I agree that "the systems that are destroying the life of the world must be deconstructed", but you can't deconstruct them by blaming those who are basically on the Indian side, to the same degree as the worst perps. Worse, you PERPETUATE those systems by lumping together the good and bad guys (as you also did with slogans like "we all are Predators"). Btw, working for the army that did the destroying (later around the world) isn't exactly how you deconstruct that system, but we already talked about this. Now again, we both wasted a lot of time just because you didn't take the time to read (thoroughly) what I wrote. Coming back to the title of this thread, it is sad to see once more that the core point I raised gets ignored completely: That Keith's "species divide" leads to genocide of the "lower species" (an artificial definition which is just an excuse to strip humans of their dignity and human rights). I am most surprised that Keith's book/thesis was not met by a loud outcry from Indians or Jews, who should be most sensitive to this issue. But no, the only outcry came from one of those evil continental Europeans... who maybe have learned more from the last so-called "species divide" than others? Chris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SpamWall: Mail to this addy is deleted unread unless it contains the keyword "igve". _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
