Chris. Have you found a good "vegetarian" *Gruyère cheese or is it made 
with rennet?

Darryl
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**On 11/7/2010 3:53 PM, Christoph Reuss wrote:
> REH quoted the typical Wikipedia disinformation:
>> Lysine is the limiting amino acid (the essential amino acid found in the
>> smallest quantity in the particular foodstuff) in most cereal grains, but is
>> plentiful in most pulses (legumes). Consequently, meals that combine cereal
>> grains and legumes, such as the Indian dal with rice, Middle Eastern hummus,
>> ful medames, falafel with pita bread, the Mexican beans with rice or
>> tortilla have arisen to provide complete protein in diets that are, by
>> choice or by necessity, vegetarian. A food is considered to have sufficient
>> lysine if it has at least 51 mg of lysine per gram of protein (so that the
>> protein is 5.1% lysine).[8]
>>
>> Foods containing significant amounts of lysine include:
> ...
>>     * Amaranth, grain, uncooked: 5.17% of the protein is lysine.[25]
> These are misleading half-truths.  What matters for virus susceptibility is
> - the Arginine content  (7.3% -- by far the highest of all grains)  and
> - the RATIO Arginine/Lysine  (1.42 : 1)
> which are both too high in Amaranth.
>
> Combining with rice doesn't help, because rice has too little Lysine and
> an even worse ratio A/L  (2.33).
> Red beans' Lysine is between Amaranth and rice, and the ratio (1.1) is
> still not low enough to compensate the excess Arginine from Amaranth.
>
> Fish comes close to that, but its ratio is only half as good as Gruyère 
> cheese.
> And fish is not a crop.
>
> For a table of A/L ratios, see http://www.herpes.com/Nutrition.shtml .
> You'll find that the top foods are dairy products -- not Indian food items.
>
>
>>   Amaranth was ten feet tall and
>> produced a larger seed than the current commercial stuff.
> My question referred to the quaLity difference.
> Quantity isn't quality.  I thought "bigger is better" was the motto of
> the settlers, not the Natives...
>
>
>> A typical rule for most Indian diets is the importance
>> of mixing things so that there is balance.
> When the other foods are also unbalanced, you can't out-balance the excess
> Arginine in Amaranth.
>
> But I'm NOT suggesting that Indians were to blame for the settlers'
> deliberately infecting them with viruses.  I'm just pointing out that
> Amaranth was not "the real genius crop".
>
> Chris
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