Hi Natalie,

At 16:28 20/11/2010 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Keith,

Despite the amazing abilities to broadcast to billions and to rally millions to a cause, I suspect we will see a decline in brilliant ideas from youth who are raised within the technologies culture.

Personal observations aside, I was watching the last half of a report on the definite dumbing down of our society due to the obsession with blackberry's, cell phones and internet/video games. Their knowledge is growing increasingly limited to what little is offered on the net, where googling passes for thorough research.

My own belief is that intelligence is so multifarious that we only tend to see (in others) what we want to see. For example, as James Flynn's studies have shown, African-American IQ test scores have improved at around 7% per decade for the last 80 years or so and white-Americans' by about 2% per decade. This is not because there's been a gain in "intelligence" but because the culture-set of the testees has become increasingly similar to the more scientific (classificatory) culture set of the testers (much more similar between then and now).

One thing that was stressed was that multi-tasking does not prove to get better results. Quite the opposite. The possibility of exploring an idea fully or to other levels, as well as possibly stymieing the creative process altogether was raised, as was the fact that switching back and forth across the lobes actually stresses the brain out. Brain scans show that the brain has to switch when faced with varying tasks. Full spread becomes limited, cutting off some parts of the brain that may otherwise become engaged.They also claimed, showing scans, that the brain can shrink over long periods of chronic stress from tasks that don't challenge the senses enough, like games, web-surfing, etc.

They dressed up a guy in a clown suit and had him wheel his unicycle round an out door area where college kids take smoke, cell phone and texting breaks. Only 25% even noticed anything unusual, they were so involved with their own little toy worlds. Driving while using a cell phone is bad enough, but texting, too? Raising kids, car repairs, rocket science--everyone is limiting their attention span by focusing on the energies to or from a certain device.

I suggest that the above describe two different phenomena: (a) brain-switching from one task to another, (b) trying to cope with too many channels of information simultaneously. As to (a), there's a high correlation between different skills. Individuals who are very good at one task are usually good at others also -- and vice versa. This argues against switching itself being stressful. No doubt there'll be a lot more evidence on this point as brain scans become more detailed. As to (b) there is plenty of evidence already that narrow attention spans are normal in everyday life. (Four-fifths of our brain cells are inhibitory, tending to block and isolate most of the potential data coming in. while only one-fifth are excitatory. Otherwise we would be having repeated epileptic fits.)

Another point raised was the professionally observed fact that kids are becoming very poor face-to-face communicators. They are so busy texting that they don't become engaged often enough in real life situations, and are losing out on social skills, psychological tools and signs, and even chemical signals vital to a well-rounded education.

In modern life, adulthood (in terms of economic independence) is delayed longer than ever before in history. We may have given up on 7-year apprenticeships but have vastly extended the number of years of "education" before young people are allowed into the adult world. The culture gap between youth and adults has never been wider than today. I doubt whether there's any loss of social skills between young people even though adults may be finding it increasingly difficult to interpret their style.

One kid had to have his leg amputated because he stayed in a chair all the day long and developed thrombosis. Dance has become regimented to the offerings of media or Wii, pop music is all soupy today, and despite the fact that most aspire to write a book, most people (according to a CBC interview), youth included, haven't read a single book on any subject in the last year.

So where did you come up with that statistic on brilliant ideas? I'd be curious to see the entire context of the stats, and what is considered to be brilliant.

Yes, that's the difficulty. Some brilliant ideas take years or even generations to be recognized as such. A high proportion are initially scorned and rejected. An historian is probably the best judge as to the relative rankings of ideas -- and also give evidence of the age of the creators. In my lifetime I've come across several (scientific) papers and (biographical) books which pretty convincingly show that the best outputs of artists and scientists occur at around, and usually below, 30 years of age. As to the enormous growth of neurons in frontal lobes between puberty and about 25-30 years of age this has not been scientifically proved in the usual experimental way (hardly so!) but ask almost any neuroscientist whether this is, or is not, a byproduct discovery of other research.

The latest information I've read on brains is that they keep getting better, actually continue to provide new cells, especially when well exercised and challenged.

That is so. We are able to grow new neurons at almost any age if we set about trying to learn a new skill. But the pre-30 year-old surge of frontal lobe neurons is something that applies to everyone from puberty onwards, whether they are taking on challenges or not. It is probably linked to the equally surging sex hormones. It is reasonable to assume that the frontal lobes (broadly involved with forward planning) are refining the basic skills learned in pre-puberty for an adult world -- diplomacy, patience, the acculturation of raw emotions, more specialization, etc.

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If I have any particular interest at all in my retirement years it is genetics. And here, the most astonishing discoveries are being made, one of which has a bearing on the above subject. This is to do with epigenetics. These are the agents which select alternative coalitions of our genes and also their stops and starts. Also new agents can arise in an individual according to particular environmental stimuli. For example, a pair of identical twins (born with identical genes and epigenes) will gradually differ from one another -- behaviourally and physiologically -- in the course of their lifetimes according to the different environments which they subsequently experience (also epigenes will enhance or subdue predispositions to specific genetic diseases). Also, these epigenetic agents are heritable. They are not so permanently enshrined as genes themselves but can continue, intensify (or attenuate) for generations, even for hundreds or thousands of years. In the modern world, where young people have far more leisure than ever before (and have taken to the mobile phone far more exuberantly than adults!) -- and many more pre-job years -- then they are experiencing a far different set of cultural/environmental stimuli than adults. The normal almost imperceptible culture changes which takes place between generations are, I believe, taking place more rapidly than ever before. If these have been, and will continue to be, carried forward epigenetically (which some biologists already think is likely) then we can expect an even wider gulf as time goes on. Just to choose one example, there has been a distinct falling away of active support (and voting) for political parties by the young for many decades -- and this is already longer than one generation. It could be that this detachment is not only intensifying contemporaneously but also epigenetically. It may be that the modern practice of voting for politicians will become increasingly irrelevant and that an entirely new system of governance may evolve. Just a thought!

Keith


Natalia




On 11/20/2010 1:29 AM, Keith Hudson wrote:
Thanks, Arthur. A very useful article to consider!

In "Small change", Malcolm Gladwell writes an article introducing a powerful social innovation (the revolutionary potential of the Internet/Twitter, etc) and then argues against those such as Clay Shirky by saying "the revolution will not be tweeted"! Gladwell concludes that networking is only good for networking but, because it is a lateral activity, then it's good for nothing else. A monumental non sequitur.

Let me start at another point which I've frequently mentioned on FW. Ninety-five per cent of all new key ideas throughout history occur to people under 30. We now know the reason why. The frontal lobes of sub-30 year-olds are still growing millions of new neurons. Their brain networks are not yet largely taken up with the conventional culture and beliefs around them. If there are to be any solutions at all to the problems of the Western industrial-consumerist age in which joblessness (among the young particularly) and welfare dependency (among the over 50s particularly) are not steadily growing, then it's going to be sub-30 year-old brains that are going to supply it. The odds are 95:5 against the possibility that the post-30 year-old brains of economists, politicians, civil servants or any other pundits are going to supply them. And, of course, it is the young who are by far the most enthusiastic users of mobile phones. It is they who will be networking promising ideas and, it is to be hoped, the results of practical experiments among them.

(Interestingly, the other theme on FW -- that of the CERN reactor -- for which we currently have to thank the impressive contribution of Pete Vincent -- is the product of young people. Questions about antimatter, the "God particle" (Higgs boson) -- two of the principal items being explored -- are due, respectively, to the 26 year-old frontal lobes of Paul Dirac and those of Peter Higgs, also 26 years old when he first suspected it.)

Keith




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For those of you interested in 'networks' -- and their link to social media and social activism -- enjoy this article!



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