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bankers.html?utm_source=2cents
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Newser) - "Private wheeler-dealers" caused Ireland's mess, but the Irish
government has been punishing its citizenry for three years now with
austerity programs to repay the debt incurred, writes Paul Krugman. This
pain is necessary to restore confidence, say all the "wise heads," even
though the deep spending cuts are actually turning the nation's recession
from bad to worse, writes Krugman in the
<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/26/opinion/26krugman.html?partner=rssnyt&emc
=rss> New York Times.


The latest pain comes via the so-called "bailout," which isn't really a
bailout. "What really happened was that the Irish government promised to
impose even more pain, in return for a credit line-a credit line that would
presumably give Ireland more time to, um, restore confidence." The markets,
alas, seem unimpressed with the draconian measures. "You have to wonder what
it will take for serious people to realize that punishing the populace for
the bankers' sins is worse than a crime," writes Krugman. "It's a mistake."

 

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All good questions.  I imagine the investors are those managers of hedge
funds, pension funds etc.  ie., people "looking after our savings" and
trying to maximize returns so they can earn bonuses.  I suppose they have
power because they have power, ie., they are in the "drivers seat"   As to
your last question, I haven't a clue.



arthur







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What I don't understand about all this is who are these nameless "investors"
whose opinions and emotional responses to short term financial situations
seem to be governing the financial future of much of the Developed World?
And who has ascribed this power to them and what would it take to bring this
power back under some sort of democtratic control?



M



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Thinking the unthinkable - euro zone breakup - Business - World business

BERLIN - Contagion spreads from Ireland to Portugal and then to Spain,
forcing European leaders to exhaust the $1 trillion bailout fund they set up
only half a year ago to defend their ambitious single currency project. 

Sniping within the 16-nation euro zone mounts and popular support for the
euro erodes as German taxpayers rebel against a series of costly rescues and
austerity fatigue in the bloc's periphery reaches breaking point.

Eventually one or more countries decide enough is enough and break away or
are forced out, reintroducing the national currencies they used before tying
their fate to Europe's audacious economic and monetary union.

Unthinkable only a few weeks ago, a small but growing number of experts now
believe some version of this nightmare scenario could become a reality for
the euro zone if policymakers fail to unite behind a more forceful strategy
for saving the euro and address investor concerns about fiscal and economic
imbalances.

Until now, doomsday predictions of a euro zone breakup have come mainly from
Anglo-Saxon skeptics, some of whom saw the single currency bloc and its
one-size-fits-all monetary policy as fatally flawed from the very start.

Over the summer, British economist Christopher Smallwood of consultants
Capital Economics produced a 20-page paper entitled "Why the euro zone needs
to break up" and U.S. economist Nouriel Roubini, alias Dr. Doom, predicted
euro members would be forced to abandon the single currency.

But as the second wave of Europe's debt crisis gathers pace, engulfing
Ireland and heaping pressure on Portugal and Spain, a new group of doubters
is emerging. They believe it may be difficult for the euro zone to hold in
its current form, even if many think that remains the most likely scenario.

Some, like Financial Times commentator Gideon Rachman, say Germany could
bolt if public frustration with bailouts mounts or if Berlin is unable to
convince its euro partners to back its controversial plan for a new
permanent rescue mechanism.

Dissident academics have challenged the legality of German participation in
the Greek rescue in the Federal Constitutional Court. If they won, the
impact on the euro could be devastating.

Others see a risk that economic divergence between Europe's stable core and
debt-saddled periphery could end up splintering the bloc into a two-tier
"Euro-North" and "Euro-South."

Still others believe Germany could engineer the expulsion of euro weaklings
like Greece that it feels should never have been allowed in.

"I don't think we'll see a breakup of the euro and Germany returning to the
deutschemark, but what we could see is a more homogeneous euro area purged
of its low performers," said Domenico Lombardi, a former executive board
member at the IMF who is president of the Oxford Institute for Economic
Policy.

These voices still represent a small minority, and few of the skeptics are
convinced the euro zone will fracture anytime soon.

Close observers of Europe, and the policymakers charged with defending the
euro, dismiss the possibility of a breakup out of hand. 

They cite the huge emotional as well as economic investment in the project,
the political will behind it, and the pain, complexity and humiliation an
exit would bring.

They point to the resilience of the euro itself, which has lost some 6
percent of its value against the U.S. dollar in the past three weeks but
remains a strong, stable currency by historical standards.

German Bundesbank president Axel Weber said Wednesday there was "no way
back" from the euro, reassuring his French audience that politicians would
simply come up with more money if their $1 trillion safety net proved
insufficient.

"My guess is that for quite a few years yet policymakers will do whatever
they can to save this thing," said Katinka Barysch, deputy director of the
Centre for European Reform.

"If you sit in London, it's doomed. They don't understand the political
investment. They look at the bond spreads and think it's doomed."

Jacob Funk Kirkegaard, a fellow at the Peterson Institute for International
Economics in Washington, said a breakup remained "unthinkable" and pointed
to the bloc's response to the Greek meltdown, in which, after repeated
delays, it tore up the rulebook and took decisive action to stop the rot.

"If the euro were seriously at risk one could expect a much more forceful
response," he said. "You would see the ECB printing 500 euro notes and
dropping them from helicopters before Spain was forced to default or could
endanger the euro."

Still, if the recent turbulence has proven anything, it's that "shock and
awe" measures are unlikely to appease investors for long, nor change their
view that the bloc is fundamentally flawed because of a steep
competitiveness gap that only a closer fiscal union may be able to solve.

Going down this path is a non-starter for Germany, which has insisted
instead that peripheral euro countries push through deflationary wage cuts
and painful structural reforms to boost productivity, in line with its own
successful economic model.

The Greeks, Irish and Portuguese are going along with these policies for
now, but skeptics worry that in the years to come this strategy will be
exposed as deeply flawed and that destabilizing imbalances within the bloc
will re-emerge.

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