I wish I knew.  Banks and bondholders will be bailed out, but I'd have to know 
much more about the situation in both countries to know how the general public 
would be impacted.  In the US, the TARP program bailed out the banks, but many 
thousands of people who bought homes via sub-prime mortgages have lost them.  

Ed

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Harrell 
  To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' 
  Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 11:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] [Ottawadissenters] Ireland and Greece


  So what would you suggest being done?

   

  REH

   

  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
  Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 10:59 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Cc: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] [Ottawadissenters] Ireland and Greece

   

  Some time I posted something on the two Irelands my wife and I visited, the 
dark and disorganized Ireland of the 1970s and the modernized, economically 
surging Ireland of 2000 -- all those new houses everywhere and all those new 
cars.  Now Ireland is in a state of crisis and has had to be bailed out.  
Comparisons are made between Ireland and the other PIGS.

   

  While I'm not really sure of what I'm saying here, I believe that the 
situation of Ireland and, for example, Greece are quite different.  Greece was 
deeply in dept because it had become too permissive with regard to social 
programs and labour practices.  It's overwhelming debt was essentially 
sovereign debt -- debt that the government had to repay but couldn't.  In  
Ireland, on the other hand, all those new houses and cars represented a huge 
load of personal debt to banks, debt that people expected to be able to pay 
because good times would surely continue.  Well, sadly, they didn't. 

   

  Ed

   

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Steve Kurtz 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 5:10 PM

    Subject: Re: [Ottawadissenters] Ultra-rich getting richer while middle 
class stagnates

     

      

    Great piece, John.  

     

    Steve

     

    On Dec 1, 2010, at 3:39 PM, John Verdon wrote:





      

     

    Arthur you might enjoy Umair Haque's latest blog post

     

    
http://blogs.hbr.org/haque/2010/11/the_irish_banking_crisis_a_par.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+harvardbusiness%2Fhaque+%28Umair+Haque+on+HBR.org%29&utm_content=Google+International

    On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Arthur Cordell <[email protected]> 
wrote:




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