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From: Steve Kurtz 
To: Ed Weick 
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Musing on the Vancouver Stanley Cup riot


Ed, please post to FW as I'm not on currently.


Thanks,


Steve



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  From: Steve Kurtz <[email protected]>

  Date: June 17, 2011 2:58:28 PM EDT

  To: [email protected]

  Subject: Re: Musing on the Vancouver Stanley Cup riot



  Perhaps some of the deniers will finally relate massive population growth (a 
longage of labor) with the current seething young adult populations around the 
globe who have been rioting for various reasons. Jobs, scarcities and high cost 
of foodstuffs and energy, vestigial patriarchies plus entrenched power elites, 
fortunes spent on wars for control of resources by governments in bed with 
industry, and globalization, robotics, outsourcing, instant communication with 
photos, and the like added to the mix.


  When a system is out of control due to scale (overshoot), no socio-economic 
engineering that avoids reversing the scale can correct symptoms driven by the 
overshoot and myriad feedback loops. (my opinion)


  It will only get worse. (also my opinion)


  Steve






  On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Ed Weick wrote:


      


    The area in which the rioting took place is still vaguely familiar.  It was 
1949 or ’50.  I had a small, cheap downtown room on Homer Street.  I was going 
to become the world’s greatest artist.  Seventeen or eighteen at the time, I’d 
dropped out of high school, spent fourteen months working in a sawmill to put 
some money together, and registered at the Vancouver School of Art (now the 
Emily Carr School).  I stayed for a year, long enough to learn that there were 
plenty of other kids more equipped to become the world’s greatest artist than I 
was.  When I now look back, my greatest accomplishment was having a ten minute 
conversation with Lauren Harris, who came to visit us at the school.



    If there had been a Stanley Cup riot at the time, would I have joined in?  
Well, there was no riot.  There couldn’t have been.  I and all of the kids I 
knew felt a part of Vancouver.  It was our city; ours to live in; ours to enjoy 
and keep in good shape.  I think that young people generally felt that way at 
the time.



    Move on to 1957.  I had just graduated from the Faculty of Commerce at UBC 
with an economics degree.  I had several firm job offers; even the dumbest kid 
in the class had a job offer or two.  The world was ours to make the best of.  
Would we have taken part in a riot?  No, why would we?  There was no point.



    Fast forward to the present.  Jobs are much harder to get now than they 
were back in the 1950s.  Many young and not so young people are out on the 
street no longer looking for jobs because they just aren’t there.  Universities 
are packed with young people because they have nowhere else to go and because 
they hope a degree will help them get a job when they graduate – if they can 
afford to graduate and if the jobs are there.  The world that I felt so good 
about back in the 1950s because it was my world and so full of promise has now 
become, as Barbara Ehrenreich puts it, their world – a world which young people 
feel they have no real part in and no control over.  It doesn’t belong to them, 
it belongs to government or the corporate world or to someone you can’t reach, 
touch or control.  Whoever is in charge can put a fence around themselves and 
keep you out, as was done in Toronto at the G20 summit.  And if you try to do 
something about it, you can be sure the cops will be there.



    This doesn’t excuse the kind of behavior we saw in Vancouver, but it may in 
part explain it.  If I were a young person in Vancouver in the world of now 
would I not jump up and down when I saw a cop car in flames?  Might I not want 
to break a window?  I simply don’t know, but I do know that I’m not going to be 
too hardheaded about what happened in Vancouver on Wednesday night.



    Ed







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