Aren't we saying exactly the same thing here...

M

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:25 AM
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A revolution (which I think of as very rapid change in a very short time)
without a vision of where you want to go is, to me, anarchy.


arthur
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Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:18 AM
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Arthur,

A vision is where you are going to, a revolution is how (maybe) you are
going to get there.

The two are hardly incompatible.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:48 AM
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Very good stuff from Robert Reich


A revolution for what?  A revolution to what?  The various isms of the past
are just that, in the past.  As I said in an earlier post we need a positive
image of the future.  Something worth working for.

arthur

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Futurework] Very good stuff from Robert Reich


I agree, but regarding the US, it seems a revolution will always be out of
reach. The ruling elite have mastered their propaganda, and play the
population like a violin. How can a revolution be contemplated, when their
mythology trumpets that the great revolution has already happened, so
clearly another is not required. The populace has been so well conditioned
that they will dutifully vote against their own best interest, no matter how
bad things get, and never see the irony, as they celebrate their fully
subverted ideals.

 -Pete

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Ed Weick wrote:

> Yeah, but we know all of that already.  The US economy has been moving 
> in the direction of the super-rich for some time now.  Their hold on 
> politicians has grown much tighter.  Unions, the guardians of middle 
> class interests, have mostly faded away.  The middle class isn't 
> really needed very much anymore.  Anything it produced can now be 
> produced much cheaper in China.  For an account of how it all 
> happened, I'd suggest "Winner Take-All Politics" by Jacob Hacker and 
> Paul Pierson.
> 
> While guys like Reich keep pointing at the problem, they have nothing 
> to say about what can be done about it.  Perhaps nothing can, given 
> the way the system is now structured.  Am I suggesting that some form 
> of system changing rebellion may be needed?  Perhaps I am.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michael gurstein" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>; "'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME
DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 1:35 PM
> Subject: [Futurework] Very good stuff from Robert Reich
> 
> 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzMqm2TwgE&feature=player_embedded
> > 

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