Wow... the last time I checked Telidon on Google (about 2 years ago, at the time of the contact from the SF lawyer) there really wasn't very much... the IEEE article I think. The Wikipedia article (dated Nov. 2009 which means that perhaps someone else was involved in similar discussions to mine) seems really excellent and comprehensive although it doesn't cover the social impact stuff which itself had a somewhat curious and truncated history (rather paralleling the rise and fall of the technology itself) which I'll have to try to write up at some point. M
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:12 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [Futurework] [Ottawadissenters] What will they think of next? The way we were........... http://www.ieee.ca/millennium/telidon/telidon_telecommunications.html http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE <http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0007 9> &Params=A1ARTA00079 09 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telidon -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:futurework-bounces%40lists.uwaterloo.ca> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:futurework-bounces%40lists.uwaterloo.ca> ] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:40 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:Ottawadissenters%40yahoogroups.com> Cc: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] [Ottawadissenters] What will they think of next? I was a member of the Canadian Videotex Consultative Committee set up by the then Dept of Communications. I argued against the top down model offered by videotext and suggested that an interactive citizen to citizen model is more appropriate. I was at the Science Council at the time and the govt people on the committee looked at me as an outsider and someone who didn't understand the technology. Telidon was the "brainchild" of Bernard Ostry then DM at DOC and Doug Parkhill then ADM at DOC and both championed it through govt. Well along came the internet and pcs and google and here we are. BTW I am quite sure that Mike G. was a member of the sub-committee on the social implications of Telidon. Arthur -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:Ottawadissenters%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:Ottawadissenters%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of David M Delaney Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 11:51 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:Ottawadissenters%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Ottawadissenters] What will they think of next? On 11-06-24 11:27 PM, michael gurstein wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/1982/06/14/us/study-says-technology-could-transform-s ociety.html Cool! In 1982, I was working in "Videotex" in Bell-Northern-Research. I remember reading this article, nodding my head and saying, "of course", agreeing with the implications it hypothesized, feeling validated by it. I was participating in building the new "digital economy", the next "phase transition" of humanity. But how callow was I to be so impressed by myself, my work, and its implications. I was a big fan then of Star Trek, too. I still cannot resist the Culture novels of Ian M Banks. Shame! At least I know thoroughly that they are fantasy and no model for our future. ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] <mailto:Futurework%40lists.uwaterloo.ca> https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework __._,_.___ Reply <mailto:[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20%5BFuturework%5D%20%5BOttawadi ssenters%5D%20What%20will%20they%20think%20of%20next%3F> to sender | Reply <mailto:[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20%5BFuturework%5D%20 %5BOttawadissenters%5D%20What%20will%20they%20think%20of%20next%3F> to group | Reply <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ottawadissenters/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJybGNobGhsBF 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjA5MDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MzUxMgRtc2dJZAMxNTIxMg RzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzMDkwMTgzMjQ-?act=reply&messageNum=15212> via web post | Start <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ottawadissenters/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMG1xMDQzBF 9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjA5MDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MzUxMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsaw NudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzMDkwMTgzMjQ-> a New Topic Messages <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ottawadissenters/message/15202;_ylc=X3oDMTM3d mJpYjh0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjA5MDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MzUxMgRtc2dJZ AMxNTIxMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzMDkwMTgzMjQEdHBjSWQDMTUyMDI-> in this topic (6) Recent Activity: Visit <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ottawadissenters;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMThpbm85BF9TAzk 3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1MjA5MDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MzUxMgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2h wBHN0aW1lAzEzMDkwMTgzMjQ-> Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJlYmE5MnQ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1M jA5MDU5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA4MzUxMgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTMwOTAxODMyN A--> Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Change Delivery Format: Traditional> , Daily <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Email Delivery: Digest> Digest . Unsubscribe <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Unsubscribe> . Terms of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=15209059/grpspId=1705083512/msgI d=15212/stime=1309018324/nc1=5191953/nc2=5758220/nc3=3858794> __,_._,___
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