Is there anything in his charts about the escalating cost of the internet
for wireless service?   My wife just took her Ipad to a conference and had
to pay a $50 surcharge to use the wireless where she was.   I'm also
noticing that services on the internet are cutting back.  Dictionary.com is
not as comprehensive as it once was.   

All of the serious newspapers now cost and make it impossible to browse
seriously across the spectrum.   The only thing that's available are the
pundit blogs that are useless for serious information.   I can't afford to
cover a lot of the Arts events and now the internet is adding up as well.
Shortly it will be too expensive to vote in many states run by the
conservatives.   Where do you get picture IDs without a car or to afford the
passport (one to two hundred dollars) or even worse, a birth certificate.
Everyone will be Obama when it comes to that.   We used to call it the Poll
Tax and Literacy tests. 

I suspect the internet revolution will end with the same whimper as did the
drug revolution in the sixties.   In forty years the conservatives will be
talking against the internet as the great purveyor of undisciplined
licentiousness.   They will use pornography as the tool and paint the whole
net with pornographic immorality.  They will also paint the current internet
inspired demonstrations as Sharia plots. 

My point?  Charts are irrelevant when a simple disagreement can turn facts
into a political reality that is totally subjective.    

The problem started long ago with crap like the current British hogwash
about the Arts called "What good are the Arts?" by John Carey an Oxford faux
professional.   His definition is so stupid that it's a perfect conservative
foil when applied to everything else in society.   (The only thing that's
dumber are the reviews.   You would think that they never thought about Art
at all. Perhaps their virus is what has been infecting Anthony Tommasini
recently at the NYTimes.)  That's what we are getting.   The mistake of
relativity for subjectivity.   John Carey's conclusion is pure Fox News.
John Carey is not the first Carey to write about Art but Joyce Carey was far
more profound.  Maybe there will be a revival of serious fiction instead of
dumb academics being mean.   (Where is I.A. Richards and Herbert Read when
you need them?)    Gulley Jimson could paint that wall that Mike wanted to
put Murdoch on.   Now that WOULD be relevant Art.

REH



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:49 PM
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
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I will get copies of his charts and post to the list.  I hesitated to
mention his name but will do so when I ask permission to post the charts to
the list.

arthur

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 2:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [Futurework] My presentatio to a luncheon group

So did stimulating discussion ensue? And where is a reference to what your
colleague reported?  Cheers,  Sally
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Ray, this was an attempt to stimulate discussion.

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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:30 AM
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
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How can you worry about welfare dependent citizens and talk about a 40%
unemployment from automation and robotics and a guaranteed income.   It
doesn't compute at least not to my feeble brain.

REH

From: [email protected]
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DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
Subject: [Futurework] My presentatio to a luncheon group


Fyi


Subject: My presentatio to a luncheon group

A colleague, an economist who is generally "left leaning",   and I joined
together to present a picture of the role of the state.  This to a casual
luncheon of a group which meets monthly.  We were asked to stimulate debate
and discussion. And we did.  We were asked to keep both presentations to
under 8 minutes. And we did that as well.

I am sending it along since I think it resonates to some degree with the
ongoing debate in the US on budgets and deficits.  Incidentally my colleague
presented a series of charts which showed that the role of the state, as a
percent of GDP is not increasing but over the past 20 years or so is
actually
declining!

The discussions around the deficit and budgets is both real and cultural.
Can we afford it?  And if so what do we want the role of the state to be?

=====================



Coming out of the great depression and WW 2 we saw the development of the
Welfare State.  An increased role of the state in ensuring the well being of
citizens.  The range of services and benefits is too great to list but
health care and pensions are part of the mix.   The welfare state brought
many benefits and many changes.  It seems that it has brought a cultural
change.  Not so much a "creeping socialism" but rather a case of "mission
creep".  The state brought a number of programs and benefits and with this
it seems that it can do still more.

Kids going to school with inadequate breakfasts?  Why lets provide
breakfasts in the school.  Parents want children, want two incomes, want the
benefits of a consumer society?  Lets provide state funded daycare.  People
become hooked on drugs?  Lets provide drug drop in or needle exchange
programmes.

Everyone has a list of state activities they value and a list of state
activities that are "over the top".  The question is has our society
developed a condition of entitlement.  No problem left behind.  Task forces,
commissions, studies and finally policies and programmes.

The argument goes that this may be all well and good.  But have we forgotten
the essential balance between rights and responsibilities.  Even if the
state could afford to do it all Should it do it all?  And if it can afford
to do it all have citizens come to expect that every "itch must be
scratched" by state intervention of one sort or another?

In a democracy it can be difficult to re-calibrate the role of the state
since elections are often run and won on promises to do more of this and
that.  Voters select a new service and then the government often has trouble
meeting their promises, especially in a time of low growth and low tax
revenues.

We are at a point where for a variety of reasons the role of the state is
being re-considered.   Can government be made more efficient?  How?  What
should government do and what should it not do?

The role of the state is being looked at critically by the left (military
industrial complex) and by the right (the creation of welfare dependent
citizens).

State spending has come under scrutiny.


(below was in the original draft but left out from the actual presentation)


How to begin the dialogue.

Let's go back for a moment to Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations  on
getting trees to grow straight

Smith said, "If the rod be bent too much one way, says the proverb in order
to make it straight you must bend it as much as the other".

While Smith was referring to agricultural policies in France hundreds of
years ago, the saying may apply to conditions today.






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