Arthur, on rereading, you and I may be saying about the same thing, though in 
different ways.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Weick 
  To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Consequences of our second-strongest instinct


  Reaching an agreement on debt/GDP via a Bretton Woods type agreement might 
work for a time and in particular circumstances, but as I see it economic 
circumstances and their international consequences change much too quickly in 
today's globalized world.  What seems needed is intelligence and an ability to 
make whatever deals may be needed on the part of leadership and to make those 
deals quickly.  Get your brightest, most open minded and least corruptable 
people into leadership roles and keep them talking to each other.  But I know 
that may be too tall and order.

  Ed

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Arthur Cordell 
    To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' ; 'Keith Hudson' 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:59 AM
    Subject: Re: [Futurework] Consequences of our second-strongest instinct


    Rather than going to gold there might be a Bretton Woods type meeting where 
international agreement is reached on debt to gdp ratios which are acceptable.  
As nations go into the "danger" zones there can be international ways of 
alerting financial markets to this fact.  This may the self correcting 
mechanism that is needed.  Granted that different nations will have different 
zones which spell danger but with agreement there will be the much needed 
control over the printing presses.

     

    Moving to gold is going to be difficult.

     

    arthur

     

    From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
    Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:18 AM
    To: Keith Hudson; RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION
    Subject: Re: [Futurework] Consequences of our second-strongest instinct

     

    A couple of comments, Keith.  One is that I've known strong-willed and 
powerful women whose husbands are low status whimps.  They didn't marry them to 
attain status, but probably because it is nice to have a husband  when 
attending events.  The other concerns gold, as you may have guessed.  It may 
feel reassuring to think there is something out there that can ultimately 
provide the world with the stability it lacks, but I can't really see anything 
doing that, not even gold.  We live in a world of quick fixes, and something 
that prevents governments from trying to fix quickly doesn't fit anymore.

     

    Ed

     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Keith Hudson 

      To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, ,EDUCATION 

      Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:51 AM

      Subject: [Futurework] Consequences of our second-strongest instinct

       

      As the stock markets of the world seem on the point of collapse and 
likely long-term economic depression looms, let me dwell on a couple of 
fundamentals.

      The strongest instinct of all is individual survival. In extremis we have 
even been known to eat one another. Thus food and water are the ultimate 
backing for any currency. A billionaire marooned in a tent in the middle of the 
Sahara would spend his last penny if he were to be offered food and water and 
taken to safety. He might even spend his last penny on one cupful of water 
without any further guarantees.

      We don't need any of the biological sciences to tell us the above. 
However, for the vast majority of mankind, as yet uneducated in any of the 
biological sciences (even in the Western world), we need such stuff as 
anthropology or evolutionary biology to tell us what is the second-most 
important instinct which we share with 3,000 other mammalian species.

      This is procreation, disguised in practical form as status. The male of 
the species needs to have as high a status as possible in order to have as much 
sex as possible, in particular with young, healthy, desirable females. This, of 
course, can't happen for more than a small minority of human males, as with 
other mammals, because of the 50:50 male:female sex ratio. Mao Zedong, the 
all-powerful dictator of China for many years was a recent example of an 
exception (now that his true life story is being told!). By the age of about 30 
years, when our frontal lobes have largely ceased developing, and potential 
skills are largely revealed, most males have settled into an acceptable status 
role for themselves. It is not that any male (to my knowledge anyway) will turn 
down an opportunity to increase his status, but he won't necessarily strive 
hard for it. Only relatively few will continue to be energetic in mid- and 
older-life in pursuing higher status intensively in the arts, or sciences, or 
politics, or business, or sport (of the gentler sort!) or even in some obscure 
hobby or activity.

      The general instinctive strategy of the young pubescent female is to 
choose as her life partner a male of as high a status as possible within her 
social domain as her intelligence, health and beauty allows. This is our human 
version of the quality control instinct of all mammalian species in making sure 
that the more inept males are left childless so that their less fortunate genes 
are not passed on.  In oppressive cultures, parents will do this for her, often 
having to entice such a male with a dowry offering.

      And, talking of dowries, this immediately brings us back to money because 
currency and status are highly correlated in most spheres of human activity.  
Even individuals with the finest intellectual minds who don't usually bother 
overmuch with conventional status objects strive for gongs such as Nobel Prizes 
-- and usually also find themselves (accidentally?) in higher-paid jobs than 
the humdrum mental plodder.

      Food and water are not convenient items to carry around in exchange for 
items which have to do with our second-strongest instinct, so man has made do 
with small items which are valuable because of their rarity. Gold and precious 
stones are good examples. In fact, as an economic survival-of-the-fittest 
phenomenon, gold coins became by far the best currency to carry around. By the 
17th century it was the universal currency except in a few small isolated 
islands.

      Gold had to be assisted, however, with a cloud of many other vicarious 
currencies during the course of the industrial revolution, because of the sheer 
volume of money that was being transacted. Principally (as regards most people 
most of the time) these surrogates were banknotes, though they could be 
exchanged, if absolutely necessary, with gold.  This regime was thrown over 
completely, however, in 1914, when major countries started printing hitherto 
unimaginable quantities of banknotes to pay for wartime armaments. After WWII 
was over, they decided that it was in their interests to outlaw gold as the 
currency with which their electorates had to pay their taxes -- that is, the 
legal currency. By printing banknotes, at first modestly and then exuberantly, 
they could devalue the cost of their debts.

      But, as we are seeing in the past few weeks and months, this trick never 
quite came off. The principal paper currencies -- the dollar, the euro and the 
renminbi -- have all been devaluing and are now close to panic mode. Gold, 
which had never quite lost its currency status, either in the minds of many 
ordinary people nor in the vaults of the central banks, is now re-establishing 
its basic value in mirror-like fashion. Central banks of the world, 
particularly those of the fast emerging countries, have been buying gold 
steadily since the last pseudo currency, the Euro, was instituted in 1999.

      If we do, in fact, descend into world-wide economic depression in the 
next few days then one thing is for certain. Treasury economists, central 
bankers and top politicians will be re-reading their history books to determine 
more precisely just what went wrong in the last century. Then we might have 
some hope that a dependable stable world trading currency will follow.

      Keith




      Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/08/
        


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