My guess Ray was that they weren't even aware that their analysis was the conventional Marxist one... They just thought they were being clever and original and "realistic" and they probably haven't read Hobsbawm or the NLR folks on this at all. M
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:04 PM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Geopolitical Weekly: GlobalEconomic Downturn- A Crisis of Political Economy Have you noticed how Frank Luntz and the Tea Party love to claim that the Third Reich was Socialist like Obama and today's Democrats. Stories are just stories. We call it gaslighting. Claim someone else is doing what you are in fact doing and want to draw attention away from yourself. Comes from an old studio movie about a bad husband. Have you noticed how Richard Armey loves to use old Soviet Agitprop phrases? It culminated in the "Homeland Security" department which was smacks of Eastern European agitprop phrases. In the mini-series Amerika the American version of the Soviets set up a country in the American center called "My Heartland." Armey's bills in Congress all read like they were American translations from the Russian. The rightwing is really into Strategic Thinking, Giving, Etc. What do you believe the strategy was in quoting Marxist analysis by a market oriented essentially Right leaning publication? Are they becoming Marxists or are they.....? REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:01 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Geopolitical Weekly: Global Economic Downturn- A Crisis of Political Economy Agree. Mostly. With the loss of confidence and outright distrust of politics and politicians it is difficult to say where the false consciousness lies. Does it lie with the "yes we can crowd" or with the "balance budgets crowd". Perhaps information overload is leading to infoglut. And confusion. arthur From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael gurstein Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:03 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: [Futurework] FW: Geopolitical Weekly: Global Economic Downturn- A Crisis of Political Economy Ray, Fascism/Naziism were both anti-elite movements at least in their formal "political" presentation... Certainly they were both financed by one section of the elite but the overall intent by the traditional elites who were the backers, was to gain political power which they felt that they had lost to more liberal (progressive) elites backed by popular movements which it was feared were ultimately uncontrollable (Communist movements, radical trade unions etc.etc.) The Stratfor analysis is (surprisingly) very close to the traditional Marxist analysis of the rise of (European) Fascism in the thirties and concerning say LePen and his Euro counterparts. Where I disagree with them is 1. they ignore the notion of "false consciousness" i.e. folks supporting political positions that are in direct contradiction to their material interests (the Tea Party for example). The reason this is important is because if one takes this line of thought then at some point the contradiction needs to be resolved--either through the imposition of some form of external "order" a la Fascist authoritarianism or through a reversion to support for one's direct interests through socialist movements or even, as we are seeing in the UK at the moment, nihilist insurrection. 2. they ignore the rise of the media, and ICTs and particularly the new social formations that have emerged as a result. I'm not exactly sure how they figure into the type of analysis that Stratfor has done here but 24 hour news, the social media, the rise of the "new technology mediated (middle) classes" in all societies needs to be accounted for in any analysis of this kind. M -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:35 AM To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: Geopolitical Weekly: Global Economic Downturn- A Crisis of Political Economy The Tea Party started by Dick Armey and funded by the Koch Brothers was a movement against elites? Give me a break? The market hates Obama. The hate regulation. Stratfor is still peddling the same old market junk they did years ago. Global Intelligence indeed? Just another pawn of the wealthy. REH From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael gurstein Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:02 AM To: [email protected]; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' Subject: [Futurework] FW: Geopolitical Weekly: Global Economic Downturn - A Crisis of Political Economy Interesting analysis... 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