Welcome Robert.   This is the first time I've read anything that you've
written.

 

Are you related to Simon Rattle?    

 

If I could walk around that circle that you cut across I would be
appreciative.    It helps to struggle with expressing these things in more
than one way.   For me anyway.      Consider Pete's comment of that problem
of the retention of wealth in the upper 1,2,3,4 or even five percent of a
population as a dangerous and viral issue for a society.   A comment that I
can agree with.     However, does that mean that we in essence "kill the
off" or "tax them into oblivion?"     I think the latter is, in their minds,
a version of the former and they equate taxes with "stealing" and "murder."
Either way, the use of violent metaphors in either camp is ridiculous and
beneath their intelligence as members of a civilized society IMHO. 

 

Just look at the extremes of verbiage coming out of the foundations of
modern Republicanism today and of the Left in the past.    Yes I remember
the nonsense in Chicago in the 1960s that eventually gave America a
mercenary military with a considerable potential for mischief in spite of
their magnificence.    Both sides love collectives but the right calls them
corporations and the left calls them cooperatives.    The potential mischief
is always greater where there is more capital to spend.     Today's
corporate image is of "worthy individuals" protecting themselves against the
"unwashed masses."   The only thing that makes the military reasonable in
such a situation is that they are basically from the middle and lower
classes and would presumably resist corporate use of the military should
such tyranny arise.   But it's still a question.     

 

The same corporate sentiment comes from the non-Hispanic, non-Jewish
religious side of the Supreme Court.     There is a remarkable consistency
within the assumptions of the non-Hispanic, non-Jewish, Irish, Baltic and
Italian Roman Catholics on the current court compared to the Hispanic and
the Jewish members of the court.   (There is no significant Protestant or
any other religious assumption on this court.)   

 

We are watching an in house battle between groups who have been here before
and still mouth the same old stories against one another while we all wonder
what will become of us in their universe.     A couple of years ago there
was a mass vandalism against our religious ceremonial grounds around the
country.    Nothing was said.    Why?   After the Patriot Act was put in
place it became convenient to put American Indian organizers into jail
without habeas corpus and in a situation reminiscent of the not to distant
past.    I personally knew an organizer who disappeared for several months
and came back with more than a little PTSD from the treatment.    If he was
any other religion including Muslim there would have been outcry but the
Native population "sucked it up."    We remembered when people were put in
jail for praying and no one knew what had happened to them until they were
released years later to families who believed they had died.    This battle
has scars that we carry into the present as we watch this court.    The
message is clear.   Don't make waves.   It's not a new message by any means.


 

The so called Evangelicals have no representation on this court whatsoever.
In fact both Kansas conservative Governor Brownback and Newt Gingrich are
converts to the conservative Roman Catholic religious views following on the
heels of the sole black member of the court who is also a part of that
religious assumption after going to parochial school on a "scholarship" that
weaned him from his African American upbringing.    It's funny how Wikipedia
claims that both African American Justices had similar backgrounds.    Sort
of like Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth I guess.     

 

Historically Baptists are Libertarian.  Check the description of Ana-Baptist
in any general Encyclopedia of Religion.     Then what is this thing about
Libertarian Roman Catholics?   Catholics assumptions aren't Libertarians by
any stretch of the imagination.   They are authoritarians and ecclesiastics
not "local church hegemonies" like the  Baptists, Presbyterians, Lutherans,
Methodists etc.    

 

Watching this Supreme Court argue personal freedom is a strange experience.
Catholics can certainly be local and liberal just as Hispanics can be
conservative and authoritarian but the core values of Libertarianism
espoused by the great English libertarians like the Art theorist Sir Herbert
Read or the educator A.S. Neil and his Summerhill schools are about as far
from any kind of Catholic Education that I've seen and I've taught in a few
over the fifty years of my teaching.     I admire the beauty of Roman
Catholic countries, churches and music but Libertarianism would have never
done any of those things.   It took a strong central church government to
create that Cathedral in Siena.     Look at the American Cathedrals and
compare them to something as basic as the baptistery room in Siena.    That
was serious capital rich authority.      It's not surprising that the beauty
of the "Red Triangle" in Italy is filled with citizens that will report a
neighbor for the wrong color of window shades to the town council.
Aesthetics has been a part of the Catholic religion for a thousand years and
just because they have communist mayors now doesn't make them lose their
sense of beauty and pride in their towns.   If anything it makes them more
observant.  Libertarians they are definitely NOT when it comes to the
aesthetics of their collective environment.   Ron and Rand Paul would be
miserable.   They prefer Texas and Kentucky.

 

I feel that the problem of Libertarian thought here is not truly being
understood.     Libertarians are hyper individuals who believe the complete
personal freedom of the individual and the right of individuals to form
corporate bodies, i.e. their own churches, companies etc.     But they do
not believe those bodies have the right to remove anyone else's freedom
either.    Some corporate bodies are built on sin, like Banks or Taverns for
example.    Christian  Libertarians don't like usury and they encourage
people not to run up their own debt or the government's but they are not
against banks even though the banks are the method by which people create
the havoc and even death in their universe.     You should remember that Ron
Paul is the one who put out the DVD about the evil at the roots of the
Federal Reserve System.   Although he defends everyone's right to their
wealth, he does not defend their being evil in gathering power to create an
authoritarian environment to further the agendas of their wealth over the
rights of anyone else.    It was not that the wealthy formed the Federal
Reserve but that they did so secretly that pisses him off.     

 

Generally Libertarians are not for using usury as an economic tool.    They
don't borrow easily.    I know because I have a family full of them both on
the European and the Cherokee side.     But what they won't do is ban usury,
even though they are against it.   To do so would be an egregious sin
against their personal freedom.      That's where the abortion issue becomes
really sticky and the Roman Catholic view on birth control and control in
general has seeped into both the non hierarchical churches and the
Republican Party.   Both abortion and birth control have served as a doorway
into evangelism from the ecclesiastical side. 

 

Most pure libertarians feel the same way about, abortion, birth control,
drugs and homosexual rights to marriage vows.    They may even believe that
Gays are deviant and Blacks are slovenly, that abortion is infanticide and
that birth control is anti "God"  but they still don't believe that anyone
should be required NOT to live anyplace that they can afford or that any of
these things should be a matter of legislation.       They should be a
matter of personal morality fomented by their choice of religion or secular
system of ethics.     Knowing the ethical issues on abortion from  a Jewish
religious perspective, there was nothing more strange than listening to some
of the Commentary and New Criterion Magazine writers defending Roman
Catholic birth control theology when they were definitely not within their
own traditions and assumptions on such matters.    Sometimes the Western
processes of "Separation and Individuation" require very strange
psychological twists in order for a person to "become."

 

Prejudice and stereotypical provinciality is not a virus that libertarians
disavow, but personal freedom means that they won't abridge another person's
freedom unless it is an actual issue of assault.     You can quibble about
what assault means and that's where both father and son Pauls become
retentive and grow their internal toxicity, but I've seen some brilliant
very liberal academics defend both father and son just as they defend von
Mises and von Hayek in spite of some glaring practical problems in their
thinking.       (Being an artist and not an economist, I won't take that up
unless the economists on the list, punt.)    

 

I don't really have time to argue about those two that I consider to be two
soul's lost in theory without a practical base.    That same problem is the
root of Rand Paul's comments about Civil Rights.     He is against slavery
and racial bias but to ban the possibility,  is a greater sin, in Senator
Paul's mind,  even if the people not belonging to his group get screwed by
his freedom. 

 

We are existing in a time of great imbalance.    It was the anthropologist
Gregory Bateson who named that imbalance that we always called: being
"between a rock and a hard place."     He called it a "double bind" and
described a whole methodology to it.    I actually believe that what he
describes, is the root of most theater and the issues of consonance and
dissonance in music.    The root of the word "insane" is both "unbalanced"
and "blocked."    Playing with those tools in Art and working out their
resolution gives great fulfillment and pleasure.   But in Art no one gets
hurt by your personal self development while everyone is entertained.    The
same is not true in the mega systems of politics and economics where we all
become guinea pigs on a regular basis and lives are alternately ruined or
robbed of personal meaning.  

 

REH  

 

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How Youth-Led Revolts Shook Elites around the World

    From Athens to Cairo and Spain to Santiago, old
    certainties are being challenged after the Arab
    spring and financial crises

By Jack Shenker
Guardian (UK)
August 12, 2011

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/12/youth-led-revolts-shook-world

Of all the millions of words expended in the global
media on this year's rash of youth-led revolts across
the globe, none are more relevant than those penned by
Alex Andreou, a Greek-born blogger who now lives in
Britain. "You have run out of ideas," he wrote in June,
echoing the message of Greek protesters to their
country's political and economic elites. "Wherever in
the world you are, that statement applies."

Andreou was writing as the occupation of Syntagma
Square - Athens's central plaza - was entering its
fourth week, and he went on to summarise what had moved
Greek demonstrators to take to the streets: a refusal
to suffer any further in order to make the rich even
richer, a withdrawal of consent and trust from the
politicians governing in their name, and finally that
simplest and most devastating of censures from one
generation to the next. Those in power, he said, were
devoid of fresh thinking, and this is why "the protests
in Greece affect all of you directly".

When the dust has settled on 2011 perhaps the aspect of
it that will prove most striking to historians is that
in a period where so many old certainties dissolved,
from the stability of dictatorships in the Middle East
to the sturdiness of the neoliberal economic framework
in Europe, America and beyond, those with their hands
on the levers of formal power had so few ideas to
offer. From Arab autocrats to eurozone finance
ministers, paucity of original thought has prevailed at
the top and the prescription has always been more of
the same: reheated rhetoric and stencil-cut solutions,
all worn lifeless with weary familiarity.

Little wonder then that from Santiago to Sana'a,
something else has arisen to fill the void - and that
those still rooted in the old models of thinking find
themselves lacking the linguistic tools necessary to
even describe the phenomenon, never mind understand it.

A "global temper tantrum" is the most historian and
empire cheerleader-in-chief Niall Ferguson could muster
in his effort to characterise this year's developments,
which have seen hundreds of thousands in north Africa,
led by the young, braving bullets to topple entrenched
regimes. Meanwhile in southern Europe, South America,
Wisconsin and London, city centres have been occupied
and youths have mobilised, challenging existing power
structures and fighting - with messy, uneven
consequences - to articulate an alternative.

We are witnessing, says Priyamvada Gopal, an English
professor at Cambridge, the "momentary transformation
of anger from a dirty word into the very currency of
political exchange".

Each of these struggles has been specific to local
contexts but they share more than just the imagery of
occupied squares, tents and teargas. They are bound
together by a common sense of disenfranchisement and
the belief that the participants have it in them to
create a new reality - and that at the moment, largely
inspired by the Arab spring and the global economic
meltdown, a window of opportunity to do so is open.

"The repression is brutal . and the teargas stronger
than ever," says Camila Vallejo, president of the
Chilean University student union which has brought
100,000 students on to the streets and taken control of
300 schools in an attempt to rebuild the country's
education system from scratch - holding mass kissathons
and Michael Jackson dance routines in the process. "We
have been protesting not about reform, but about
wholesale restructuring . if we don't have real change
now, it's not going to happen."

The scope of her ambition echoes that found in Syntagma
Square, where opposition to an EU/IMF bailout and its
accompanying austerity measures has morphed into a
broader critique of social injustice. "We are ordinary
people, we are like you," reads the mission statement
of the Real Democracy website - the online hub of the
Syntagma protests - before going on to explore the
alienation many Greeks feel from the organs of the
state. "Without us none of this would exist, because we
move the world . I am outraged. I think I can change
it."

It's easy to overstate the linkages; those joining the
anti-government uprising in the Syrian town of Hama and
los indignados of Barcelona and Madrid are striving to
confront very different enemies and are facing wildly
dissimilar levels of repression as a result. But
connections are apparent, not least in the protesters'
rejection of the old terms of debate and a commitment
to build something else in response on the streets - a
commitment most visible in Cairo's Tahrir Square, where
protesters congregated not only to face down the regime
but also to prove that an alternative was feasible; the
chant ahum ahum ahum, al masryeen ahum ('here, here,
here, the Egyptians are here) was a snub to Hosni
Mubarak, but also a reminder that the contours of
society were being reimagined from the ground upwards.

Elites have yet to grasp that hunger for meaningful
grassroots change and the desire to reclaim agency over
a future that appears depressingly predetermined, be it
under the crony capitalism and police brutality of
Middle Eastern despots or the more sanitised platter of
unemployment and austerity being handed down by
governments in the west. Those on the other side of the
divide have been unable to keep pace with the rapid
shift in thinking; in his analysis, Ferguson adopts the
kind of paternalistic tone that came easily to Mubarak
as the octogenarian gently chided Egypt's youth for
daring to question his authority, or to the unelected
rating agency chiefs who condemn whole nations to
poverty with a sad shake of the head and a well-
intentioned finger-wag against spending profligacy.

"Historically in any country and in any context it's
young people who are at the core of protests," says
Gopal. "But at this moment in history we're seeing a
shared sense of deprivation among the young, a shared
sense of there being a democracy deficit across the
world. In all these places neoliberal economic policies
have intensified their hold and affected young people
most directly, young people looking for employment,
study, prospects. I think it has cut young people to
the bone, and they're confronting it directly."

Two other common motifs run through this year's
rebellions. First has been the collapse in authority of
traditional institutions; from Mubarak's cult of
personality to the seemingly incessant scandals
engulfing Britain's arbiters of political, financial
and cultural control - bankers, MPs, and the Murdoch
media empire. The crumpling is contagious, fuelling
rebellions in the most of places.

"People are on the edge, you can't fool us anymore,"
says Avi Cohen, a 25-year-old drama student who has
joined a 2,000-strong tent protest on Tel Aviv's
exclusive Rothschild Avenue. The protesters say they
are campaigning for social justice, leaving the
question of Palestinian injustice off the table for now
in an effort to build the broadest possible consensus.

Like many of his counterparts elsewhere, Rotem Tsbueri
has lost faith in the official mechanisms of political
reform. "We're not interested in changing ministers or
governments, we want to change the way things are done.
It's not about who's in the government, it's about the
way they work and think."

The 15-M movement in Spain, which organised
demonstrations in 58 cities earlier this year under the
slogan "they don't represent us", embodies a similar
yearning for a new political framework to arise. "We
don't want to form a political party because it would
destroy the horizontal nature of the movement," says
Carlos Pederes, an IT worker who has been involved in
the protests from the beginning. "[Plus] the system is
rigged so that only the two big parties can win, so it
would be pointless."

The second commonality has been the tools used to
mobilise dissent. Although the role of online social
media in the Arab uprisings has often been overstated,
there can be no doubt that platforms such as Twitter
and Facebook have enabled diverse groups to quickly
garner broad support for acts of resistance - and that
this means of communication has coloured the internal
organisation of protest movements.

"One of the most unifying aspects between our own
organisation and other movements around the world is
that we're relatively non-hierarchical and
decentralised," says Steve Taylor, a campaigner with UK
Uncut.

"Today there may not be a single unifying ideology of
change among global youth protests of the sort that
united people in 1968, but there is a common ideology
embedded within our shared model of organisation - no
egos, no celebrities, no one telling anyone else what
to do and no one willing to take orders - one that
lends itself to online social media and has captured
people's imaginations."

The bonds between 2011's islands of youth dissent
remain limited. Although the root causes of anger may
be similar, the levels of politicisation among those
expressing that anger vary wildly; Gopal says she was
struck by the diffuseness and lack of direction in the
recent British riots, contrasting it with protests in
the Arab world, where "a focus and self-awareness that
comes from those countries' recent history of anti-
colonial struggle has been transmitted from one
generation to the next". But this year could still be
remembered as one in which, after many decades of
moribund political and economic realities, a new
narrative began to form.

As Andreou points out, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, the
philosopher who coined the term "Black Swan event" -
denoting a hugely consequential event that is utterly
unpredictable and can only be explained afterwards -
was recently asked by Jeremy Paxman whether the
violence on the streets of Athens fell into that
category. He demurred - and said that the real Black
Swan event was that more people weren't rioting
elsewhere. Additional reporting by Jonathan Franklin in
Santiago, Stephen Burgen in Barcelona and Harriet
Sherwood in Tel Aviv

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