IMHO, to really make a common currency like the Euro work, you'd need not only 
a common fiscal authority but probably also a common political authority.  
Under the EU, you have neither of these.  What you have is a bunch of 
governments using a common currency trying to keep their countries afloat under 
adverse economic circumstances, several perhaps succeeding (we'll see) and 
others obviously failing.  It probably won't be long before the countries that 
are coping (Germany, France) get tired of bailing out those that are failing.  
I don't think it'll be too long before the deutsche mark, the franc, the 
guilder, the escudo and the drachma are back in circulation.  The EU was a nice 
but very incomplete dream.

Ed

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Hudson 
  To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Euro strategy for the EU?


  Pete,

  Your proposal of a Euro-Jr is interesting and it has some merit but, other 
things being equal, it would work no better than the existing Euro (except for 
one possibility).

  The conventional 20th and 21st century (fiat) currency of any government 
exists only by how much confidence private people or institutions have that 
they will be paid back (in real value) if they lend money to the government if 
its expenditures continue to exceed its existing ability to tax. If they have 
no confidence in the future competence of a government then they won't lend -- 
that is, buy government bonds. If they have full confidence, then they might 
buy bonds with little or no risk premium above about a 2% annual return (that 
is, that the normal level of compensation people require for not investing it 
elsewhere or hoarding it for emergencies with complete security under the 
mattress.) If potential investors think that the future financial conduct of a 
government is risky then they will demand higher annual returns on their bonds 
according to the level of risk they perceive.  

  When the Eurozone started 11 years ago with such mutual back-slapping bombast 
(in effect, "we're going to challenge the dollar!"), then private investors, 
banks, pension funds and other naive institutions were bamboozled into thinking 
that the initial value of the Euro would be maintained by prudent financial 
control. However, they didn't realize that, despite all the wonderful 
aspirations, no Eurozone government had actually been set up with the ability 
to tax. There was a money-printing central bank all right -- the ECB -- but 
that's only the half of it. There was no taxation system or budgetary control 
over the Eurozone territory. Reduced to essentials, there were only voluntary 
contributions by prosperous governments (and their electorates) such as Germany 
to the less prosperous countries such as Greece. Thus, initially, when 
investors bought Eurobonds issued by Greece they thought they would have the 
same potential value as Eurobonds issued by Germany. Because Germany and 
Finland and one or two other countries have become increasingly reluctant to be 
so charitable in the future, investors now know otherwise about Eurobonds. 
Those who buy Greek Eurobonds now require a return of 30% per annum (and still 
rising) due to the risk factor of a culture and economy that has been enticed 
into becoming charity-dependent over the past 11 years. Obviously, this can't 
continue for much longer.

  If, however, Greece and other similar countries such as Ireland, Spain, 
Portugal and Italy, were to form  a Euro-Jr-zone then exactly the same 
situation would apply. There would be a relatively higher  level of prosperity 
in one of them, but it would be distinctly lower than that of the Eurozone as a 
whole and it would thus be most unlikely ever start to be charitable to the 
others. Unless the Euro-Jrp-zone also had a unitary taxation and budgetary 
system (that is, imposed by a new central government), the Euro-Jnr would have 
no more chance of surviving than the Euro.

  The Eurozone is now debating whether to issue a new type of Eurobond (that 
is, a real bond this time) but this would require a new pan-Euro government 
with the ability to tax as well -- so that investors would have confidence in 
lending with sensibly low rates of return. So far, the political and the civil 
service Eurozone cliques have not dared mention this to their electorates. The 
consensus of objective observers so far is that the possibility of persuading 
17 different electorates agreeing to yield their sovereignty to one new 
taxation authority is pretty well zero. 

  Ironically, the central banks of America, England, Japan, Switzerland and the 
ECB itself (!) have decided to guarantee the survival of the Eurozone until the 
end of the year. The irony is that the governments of all of them, except 
Switzerland (almost the smallest country in Europe!), are already so deeply in 
debt themselves that any realistic person would say that they have little 
prospect of ever paying their debts off except with several years of hard 
grind. The only non-bankrupt government with any large amount of surplus money, 
China (and hitherto by far the largest investor in Eurobonds of various sorts), 
hasn't been invited in this rescue operation. It's prepared to help further but 
only if the Eurozone "gets its house in order" as one of its spokesmen said 
yesterday.

  The possibility I previously hinted at is that if the potential Euro-Jr-zone 
countries were to form a competent taxation/budgeting government then the 
Euro-Jr currency could survive. Indeed, if it also needed a helping hand, then 
China would probably help with initial loans. The Euro-Jr-zone could survive 
even if the Eurozone didn't. Now there's a wonder!

  Keith

  At 03:28 16/09/2011, you wrote:


    I've been musing about the arc of the currency issues evolving
    in the EU, and given the recent insistence from key leaders that
    Greece (et al, presumably) should remain in the EU, I wonder
    if the solution will be to create a new currency, a sort of
    euro-junior, for use in a tier of EU states to be relegated as
    the EU farm league. This currency would be able to adjust
    against the euro, thereby provide relief for failed aspirants
    to EU financial discipline. The EU-cadet states would then retain
    many EU benefits, while the number of currencies could remain low,
    however many states found themselves sent down from the majors
    due to a prolonged slump, thus keeping the overall bookkeeping
    relatively simple. The currency would persist regardless of
    the comings and goings of members of the B-team.

    This strategy could provide a flexibility to the financial 
    configuration, allowing both a breathing space, taking away the
    urgency for an all encompassing solution, and providing room 
    for playing about with various mechanisms to improve the overall
    EU monetary system. 

     -Pete

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