Keith, from my years in the Canadian public service, I know that lots of people 
who are supposed to remain at a distance from each other talk to each other on 
important matters.  I would think that the Chair of the Fed and President talk 
to each other and talk often especially in times of looming crisis like the 
present.  Declining dinner invitations and having talks on critical matters 
behind closed doors are two different things.

Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Hudson 
  To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, , EDUCATION ; Ed Weick 
  Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [Futurework] Bernanke speaking because Obama can't?


  Ed,  

  I doubt whether Bernanke discussed this with Obama -- at least directly. 
Chairmen of the Fed have valued their (so-called) independence. Greenspan would 
see Bush from time to time but maintains that he never discussed Fed matters 
with him. His predecessor Paul Volcker (or perhaps the one before him) went so 
far as to decline dinner invitations from the President (that is, he turned 
down the first invitation and didn't get another one after that!).

  I would still maintain that Bernanke is feeling panicky. So far, he's just 
been pushing on a piece of string. We still don't know just why the Fed 
committee met for two days. What came out of it didn't seem to justify it. They 
could, of course, have decided on other things which we don't know about. 

  Keith

  At 17:13 29/09/2011, you wrote:

    Keith, I tend to go along with Arthur on this one.  
     
    Because politicians can't help being what they are, more of this kind of 
thing needs to be said by authoritative people who are not politicians. If 
Obama were to say what Bernanke, he would be accused of making an ideologically 
based political statement.  The Republicans would find ways to tear it to 
shreds.  If Bernanke is saying it, however, it is coming from a highly 
respected economist (no matter what you think of him) with no political axe to 
grind (supposedly).  It's a straight-out warning, and it's certain that he 
would have discussed the statement with Obama before he made it.
     
    Ed
     

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Keith Hudson 

      To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION 

      Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:00 AM

      Subject: Re: [Futurework] Bernanke speaking because Obama can't?


      Ed,


      Having failed to produce more employment by his Keynesian money-printing 
methods, Bernanke is now trying to throw the blame onto Congress! The irony is 
that, in fact, members of Congress have already brought about a great deal of 
extra employment over the years when getting funds for pork barrel projects in 
their own constituencies. These have usually been successfully achieved by 
tucking them inconspicuously into larger pieces of legislation. These projects, 
too, have been adding to government deficits every year, just as Bernanke has.


      It's also nonsense for Bernanke to suggest that lessons could be learned 
from the emerging nations, and particularly China. True, their governmental 
budgets are often far more disciplined than ours but that's mainly due to 
centuries' old cultures which means that their people, to a very considerable 
extent, will do as they're told. China, for example, doesn't have anything like 
a welfare state or social security (worth speaking of) either. This means that 
ordinary people save as much as 30% or 40% of their earning against their old 
age or for health reasons. If Americans were to go anywhere near that level of 
savings then it would kill even the present depressed economy stone dead.


      Bernanke is becoming panicky -- as well he might. Also, I suspect, he's 
trying to distance himself from Obama who, probably, won't get re-elected in 
2012. 


      Keith


      At 14:30 29/09/2011, you wrote:

        From today's Globe and Mail.

         Ed




        Long-term unemployment in U.S. a 'national crisis,' Bernanke says





        MARTIN CRUTSINGER




        WASHINGTON- The Associated Press



        Last updated Wednesday, Sep. 28, 2011 9:37PM EDT


        In unusually strong language directed at U.S. politicians, Federal 
Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke has called long-term unemployment a "national 
crisis" and suggested Congress needs to act on jobs and the housing industry.


        Mr. Bernanke noted that about 45 per cent of the unemployed have been 
out of work for at least six months.


        "This has never happened in the post-war period in the United States. 
They are losing the skills they had, they are losing their connections, their 
attachment to the labour force."


        He added: "The unemployment situation we have, the job situation, is 
really a national crisis."


        Mr. Bernanke said the government needs to provide support to help the 
long-term unemployed retrain for jobs and find work. And he suggested that 
Congress should take more responsibility.


        Responding to a question, Mr. Bernanke said long-term unemployment, 
budgetary discipline and housing policy were the three most important areas 
where Congress could contribute to an economic recovery.


        "There are certainly some areas where other policy makers could 
contribute," he said.


        Mr. Bernanke's comments were his latest in a public effort to get 
Congress to act further to rejuvenate the economy. He suggested that the Fed 
can achieve only so much through policies that seek to lower long-term interest 
rates.


        "The Federal Reserve has made enormous efforts to try to help this 
economy recover and stabilize" through its control of interest rates, or 
monetary policy, he said. Those policies have driven rates to record lows.


        "Monetary policy can do a lot, but monetary policy is not a panacea," 
Mr. Bernanke said.


        On the housing crisis, he said strong government programs to help the 
industry recover would aid the Fed's own efforts to boost housing by driving 
mortgage rates to their lowest levels in decades.


        In his speech, the central banker said the United States and other rich 
nations could relearn a few lessons from fast-growing developing nations.


        He said the successful emerging economies such as China had adopted 
disciplined budget policies, embraced free trade, made public investments and 
supported education.


        "Advanced economies like the United States would do well to relearn 
some of the lessons from the experiences of the emerging market economies, such 
as the importance of disciplined fiscal policies," Mr. Bernanke said.


        But in the question-and-answer period, Mr. Bernanke cautioned U.S. 
lawmakers against cutting deficits too quickly to reduce budget deficits. He 
has said that could put the fragile economy at risk.


        He noted in his speech that emerging markets such as China account for 
a large and growing share of the global economy, so they need to act 
accordingly.


        "With increasing size and influence comes greater responsibility," he 
said.


        Emerging nations will be challenged in the future by their reliance on 
exports to drive growth, he added.


        The Obama administration has been pushing the Group of 20 major 
economies, which includes traditional powers such as the United States and 
emerging economies such as China, Brazil and India, to boost domestic demand 
rather than relying so heavily on exports to rich nations.


      Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/2011/09/

       


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