My ex brother in law used to talk about the Mexican workers at the pipe
fitting company where he was management.    He told me how they wouldn't do
a lot of things like climb on big piles of loosely piled steel pipes.   He
said they were lazy.   I asked if they had children and he said "many" and I
asked if the company had health care and he said no that it was minimum
wage.    I asked him if he would endanger his family and climb on that pile
of pipes for minimum wage and he said "no."      Still, they would work in
the fields as the owner would spray pesticide on the fields and the workers.
Just like the lead and zinc mines never gave shit about us growing there
either.     They thought they were doing us a favor by providing jobs.
I've paid big bills for those jobs all of my adult life.    I'm a negative
externality in yonega language. 

 

REH

 

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Subject: [Futurework] Why Americans won't do dirty jobs - Business - US
business - Bloomberg Businessweek - msnbc.com

 

 

Fairly long article, but the author makes a couple of interesting points. In
the following paragraph, the bold and italics are mine.

 

Barry

 

 

 

 

"It's a hard-to-resist syllogism: Dirty jobs are available; Americans won't
fill them; thus, Americans are too soft for dirty jobs. Why else would so
many unemployed people turn down the opportunity to work during a recession?
Of course, there's an equally compelling obverse. Why should farmers and
plant owners expect people to take a back-breaking seasonal job with low pay
and no benefits just because they happen to be offering it? If no one wants
an available job-especially in extreme times-maybe the fault doesn't rest
entirely with the people turning it down. Maybe the market is inefficient."

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45246594/ns/business-us_business/t/why-americans
-wont-do-dirty-jobs/#.Tr3Ay_EqDA0

 

 


             Why Americans won't do dirty jobs 


Crackdown on immigrants leaves business owners struggling with shortages 


 


 
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Andrew Lichtenstein  /  For Bloomberg Businessweek 

Only a skeleton crew was available recently to harvest tomatoes at Ellen
Jenkins' farm near Birmingham, Ala.,  where many fruits rotted in the field.

By Elizabeth Dwoskin 

 

Skinning, gutting, and cutting up catfish is not easy or pleasant work. No
one knows this better than Randy Rhodes, president of Harvest Select, which
has a processing plant in impoverished Uniontown, Ala. For years, Rhodes has
had trouble finding Americans willing to grab a knife and stand 10 or more
hours a day in a cold, wet room for minimum wage and skimpy benefits.

Most of his employees are Guatemalan. Or they were, until Alabama enacted an
immigration law in September that requires police to question people they
suspect might be in the U.S. illegally and punish businesses that hire them.
The law, known as HB56, is intended to scare off undocumented workers, and
in that regard it's been a success. It's also driven away legal immigrants
who feared being harassed. 

Rhodes arrived at work on Sept. 29, the day the law went into effect, to
discover many of his employees missing. Panicked, he drove an hour and a
half north to Tuscaloosa, where many of the immigrants who worked for him
lived. Rhodes, who doesn't speak Spanish, struggled to get across how much
he needed them. He urged his workers to come back. Only a handful did. "We
couldn't explain to them that some of the things they were scared of weren't
going to happen," Rhodes says. "I wanted them to see that I was their
friend, and that we were trying to do the right thing."

His ex-employees joined an exodus of thousands of immigrant field hands,
hotel housekeepers, dishwashers, chicken plant employees, and construction
workers who have fled Alabama for other states. Like Rhodes, many employers
who lost workers followed federal requirements-some even used the E-Verify
system-and only found out their workers were illegal when they disappeared. 

In their wake are thousands of vacant positions and hundreds of angry
business owners staring at unpicked tomatoes, uncleaned fish, and unmade
beds. "Somebody has to figure this out. The immigrants aren't coming back to
Alabama-they're gone," Rhodes says. "I have 158 jobs, and I need to give
them to somebody." 

There's no shortage of people he could give those jobs to. In Alabama, some
211,000 people are out of work. In rural Perry County, where Harvest Select
is located, the unemployment rate is 18.2 percent, twice the national
average. One of the big selling points of the immigration law was that it
would free up jobs that Republican Governor Robert Bentley said immigrants
had stolen from recession-battered Americans. Yet native Alabamians have not
come running to fill these newly liberated positions. Many employers think
the law is ludicrous and fought to stop it. Immigrants aren't stealing
anything from anyone, they say. Businesses turned to foreign labor only
because they couldn't find enough Americans to take the work they were
offering.

At a moment when the country is relentless focused on unemployment, there
are still jobs that often go unfilled. These are difficult, dirty,
exhausting jobs that, for previous generations, were the first rickety step
on the ladder to prosperity. They still are-just not for Americans. 

For decades many of Alabama's industries have benefited from a compliant
foreign workforce and a state government that largely looked the other way
on wages, working conditions, and immigration status. With so many foreign
workers now effectively banished from the work pool and jobs sitting empty,
businesses must contend with American workers who have higher expectations
for themselves and their employers-even in a terrible economy where work is
hard to find. "I don't consider this a labor shortage," says Tom Surtees,
Alabama's director of industrial relations, himself the possessor of a job
few would want: calming business owners who have seen their employees
vanish. "We're transitioning from a business model. Whether an employer in
agriculture used migrant workers, or whether it's another industry that used
illegal immigrants, they had a business model and that business model is
going to have to change." 

On a sunny October afternoon, Juan Castro leans over the back of a pickup
truck parked in the middle of a field at Ellen Jenkins's farm in northern
Alabama. He sorts tomatoes rapidly into buckets by color and ripeness.
Behind him his crew-his father, his cousin, and some friends-move expertly
through the rows of plants that stretch out for acres in all directions,
barely looking up as they pull the last tomatoes of the season off the
tangled vines and place them in baskets. Since heading into the fields at 7
a.m., they haven't stopped for more than the few seconds it takes to swig
some water. They'll work until 6 p.m., earning $2 for each 25-pound basket
they fill. The men figure they'll take home around $60 apiece. 

Castro, 34, says he crossed the border on foot illegally 19 years ago and
has three American-born children. He describes the mood in the fields since
the law passed as tense and fearful. Gesturing around him, Castro says that
not long ago the fields were filled with Hispanic laborers. Now he and his
crew are the only ones left. "Many of our friends left us or got deported,"
he says. "The only reason that we can stand it is for our children." 

He wipes sweat from beneath his fluorescent orange baseball cap, given to
him by a timber company in Mississippi, where he works part of the year
cutting pine. Castro says picking tomatoes in the Alabama heat isn't easy,
but he counts himself lucky. He has never passed out on the job, as many
others have, though he does have a chronic pinched nerve in his neck from
bending over for hours on end. The experiment taking place in Alabama makes
no sense to him. Why try to make Americans do this work when they clearly
don't want it? "They come one day, and don't show up the next," Castro says.


It's a common complaint in this part of Alabama. A few miles down the road,
Chad Smith and a few other farmers sit on chairs outside J&J Farms, venting
about their changed fortunes. Smith, 22, says his 85 acres of tomatoes are
only partly picked because 30 of the 35 migrant workers who had been with
him for years left when the law went into effect. The state's efforts to
help him and other farmers attract Americans are a joke, as far as he is
concerned. "Oh, I tried to hire them," Smith says. "I put a radio ad out-out
of Birmingham. About 15 to 20 people showed up, and most of them quit. They
couldn't work fast enough to make the money they thought they could make, so
they just quit." 

Joey Bearden, who owns a 30-acre farm nearby, waits for his turn to speak.
"The governor stepped in and started this bill because he wants to put
people back to work-they're not coming!" says Bearden. "I've been farming 25
years, and I can count on my hand the number of Americans that stuck."

It's a hard-to-resist syllogism: Dirty jobs are available; Americans won't
fill them; thus, Americans are too soft for dirty jobs. Why else would so
many unemployed people turn down the opportunity to work during a recession?
Of course, there's an equally compelling obverse. Why should farmers and
plant owners expect people to take a back-breaking seasonal job with low pay
and no benefits just because they happen to be offering it? If no one wants
an available job-especially in extreme times-maybe the fault doesn't rest
entirely with the people turning it down. Maybe the market is inefficient. 

Tom Surtees is tired of hearing employers grouse about their lazy
countrymen. "Don't tell me an Alabamian can't work out in the field picking
produce because it's hot and labor intensive," he says. "Go into a steel
mill. Go into a foundry. Go into numerous other occupations and tell them
Alabamians don't like this work because it's hot and it requires manual
labor." The difference being, jobs in Alabama's foundries and steel mills
pay better wages-with benefits. "If you're trying to justify paying someone
below whatever an appropriate wage level is so you can bring your product, I
don't think that's a valid argument," Surtees says. 

In the weeks since the immigration law took hold, several hundred Americans
have answered farmers' ads for tomato pickers. A field over from where Juan
Castro and his friends muse about the sorry state of the U.S. workforce,
34-year-old Jesse Durr stands among the vines. An aspiring rapper from
inner-city Birmingham, he wears big jeans and a do-rag to shield his head
from the sun. He had lost his job prepping food at Applebee's, and after
spending a few months looking for work a friend told him about a Facebook
posting for farm labor. 

The money isn't good-$2 per basket, plus $600 to clear the three acres when
the vines were picked clean-but he figures it's better than sitting around.
Plus, the transportation is free, provided by Jerry Spencer, who runs a
community-supported agriculture program in Birmingham. That helps, because
the farm is an hour north of Birmingham and the gas money adds up. 

Durr thinks of himself as fit-he's all chiseled muscle-but he is surprised
at how hard the work is. "Not everyone is used to this. I ain't used to it,"
he says while taking a break in front of his truck. "But I'm getting used to
it." 

Yet after three weeks in the fields, he is frustrated. His crew of seven has
dropped down to two. "A lot of people look at this as slave work. I say, you
do what you have to do," Durr says. "My mission is to finish these acres. As
long as I'm here, I'm striving for something." In a neighboring field,
Cedric Rayford is working a row. The 28-year-old came up with two friends
from Gadsden, Ala., after hearing on the radio that farmers were hiring. The
work is halfway complete when one member of their crew decides to quit.
Rayford and crewmate Marvin Turner try to persuade their friend to stay and
finish the job. Otherwise, no one will get paid. Turner even offers $20 out
of his own pocket as a sweetener to no effect. "When a man's mind is made
up, there's about nothing you can do," he says. 

The men lean against the car, smoking cigarettes and trying to figure out
how to finish the job before day's end. "They gotta come up with a better
pay system," says Rayford. "This ain't no easy work. If you need somebody to
do this type of work, you gotta be payin'. If they was paying by the hour,
motherf--s would work overtime, so you'd know what you're working for." He
starts to pace around the car. "I could just work at (MCD)McDonald's," he
says.

Turner, who usually works as a landscaper, agrees the pay is too low. At $75
in gas for the three days, he figures he won't even break even. The men
finish their cigarettes. Turner glances up the hill at Castro's work crew.
"Look," he says. "You got immigrants doing more than what blacks or whites
will. Look at them, they just work and work all day. They don't look at it
like it's a hard job. They don't take breaks!" 

The notion of jobs in fields and food plants as "immigrant work" is
relatively new. As late as the 1940s, most farm labor in Alabama and
elsewhere was done by Americans. During World War II the U.S. signed an
agreement with Mexico to import temporary workers to ease labor shortages.
Four and a half million Mexican guest workers crossed the border. At first
most went to farms and orchards in California; by the program's completion
in 1964 they were working in almost every state. Many braceros-the term
translates to "strong-arm," as in someone who works with his arms-were
granted green cards, became permanent residents, and continued to work in
agriculture. Native-born Americans never returned to the fields.
"Agricultural labor is basically 100 percent an immigrant job category,"
says Princeton University sociologist Doug Massey, who studies population
migration. "Once an occupational category becomes dominated by immigrants,
it becomes very difficult to erase the stigma." 

Massey says Americans didn't turn away from the work merely because it was
hard or because of the pay but because they had come to think of it as
beneath them. "It doesn't have anything to do with the job itself," he says.
In other countries, citizens refuse to take jobs that Americans compete for.
In Europe, Massey says, "auto manufacturing is an immigrant job category.
Whereas in the States, it's a native category." 

In Alabama, the transition to immigrant labor happened slowly. Although
migrant workers have picked fruit and processed food in Alabama for four
decades, in 1990 only 1.1 percent of the state's total population was
foreign-born. That year the U.S. Census put the combined Latin American and
North American foreign-born population at 8,072 people. By 2000 there were
75,830 Hispanics recorded on the Census; by 2010 that number had more than
doubled, and Hispanics are now nearly 4 percent of the population. 

That first rush of Hispanic immigrants was initiated by the state's $2.4
billion poultry and egg industry. Alabama's largest agricultural export
commodity went through a major expansion in the mid-'90s, thanks in part to
new markets in the former Soviet Union. Companies such as Tyson Foods found
the state's climate, plentiful water supply, light regulation and anti-union
policies to be ideal. At the time, better-educated American workers in
cities such as Decatur and Athens were either moving into the state's
burgeoning aerospace and service industries or following the trend of
leaving Alabama and heading north or west, where they found office jobs or
work in manufacturing with set hours, higher pay, and safer
conditions-things most Americans take for granted. In just over a decade,
school districts in once-white towns such as Albertville, in the
northeastern corner of the state, became 34 percent Hispanic. By the 2000s,
Hispanic immigrants had moved across the state, following the construction
boom in the cities, in the growing plant nurseries in the south, and on the
catfish farms west of Montgomery. It wasn't until anti-immigration sentiment
spread across the country, as the recession took hold and didn't let go,
that the Republican legislators who run Alabama began to regard the
immigrants they once courted as the enemy. 

A large white banner hangs on the chain-link fence outside the Harvest
Select plant: "Now Hiring: Filleters/Trimmers. Stop Here To Apply." Randy
Rhodes unfurled it the day after the law took effect. "We're getting
applications, but you have to weed through those three and four times," says
Amy Hart, the company's human resources manager. A job fair she held
attracted 50 people, and Hart offered positions to 13 of them. Two failed
the drug test. One applicant asked her out on a date during the interview.
"People reapply who have been terminated for stealing, for fighting, for
drugs," she says. "Nope, not that desperate yet!" 

Rhodes says he understands why Americans aren't jumping at the chance to
slice up catfish for minimum wage. He just doesn't know what he can do about
it. "I'm sorry, but I can't pay those kids $13 an hour," he says. Although
the Uniontown plant, which processes about 850,000 pounds of fish a week, is
the largest in Alabama and sells to big supermarket chains including
(DEG)Food Lion, Harris Teeter, and (WMT)Sam's Club, Rhodes says overseas
competitors, which pay employees even lower wages, are squeezing the
industry. 

When the immigration law passed in late September, John McMillan's phone
lines were deluged. People wanted McMillan, the state's agriculture
commissioner, to tell them whether they'd be in business next year. "Like,
what are we going to do? Do we need to be ordering strawberry plants for
next season? Do we need to be ordering fertilizer?" McMillan recalls. "And
of course, we don't have the answers, either." 

His buddy Tom Surtees, the industrial relations director, faces the same
problem on a larger scale. Where McMillan only has to worry about
agriculture, other industries, from construction to hospitality, are
reporting worker shortages. His ultimate responsibility is to generate the
results that Governor Bentley has claimed the legislation will produce-lots
of jobs for Alabamians. That means he cannot allow for the possibility that
the law will fail. 

"If those Alabamians on unemployment continue to not apply for jobs in
construction and poultry, then [Republican politicians] are going to have to
help us continue to find immigrant workers," says Jay Reed, who heads the
Alabama Associated Builders & Contractors. "And those immigrant workers are
gone." 

Business owners are furious not only that they have lost so many workers but
that everyone in the state seemed to see it coming except Bentley, who
failed to heed warnings from leaders in neighboring Georgia who said they
had experienced a similar flight of immigrants after passing their own
immigration law. Bentley declined to be interviewed for this story. 

McMillan and Surtees spend their days playing matchmaker with anxious
employers, urging them to post job openings on the state's employment
website so they can hook up with unemployed Alabamians. McMillan is asking
Baptist ministers to tell their flocks that jobs are available. He wants
businesses to rethink the way they run their operations to make them more
attractive. On a road trip through the state, he met an apple farmer who
told him he had started paying workers by the hour instead of by how much
they picked. The apples get bruised and damaged when people are picking for
speed. "Our farmers are very innovative and are used to dealing with
challenges," McMillan says. "You know, they can come up with all kinds of
things. Something I've thought about is, maybe we should go to four-hour
shifts instead of eight-hour shifts. Or maybe two six-hour shifts." 

McMillan acknowledges that even if some of these efforts are successful,
they are unlikely to fill the labor void left by the immigrants'
disappearance. Some growers, he says, might have to go back to traditional
mechanized row crops such as corn and soybeans. The smaller farmers might
have to decrease volumes to the point where they are no longer commercially
viable. "I don't know," says McMillan. "I just don't know, but we've got to
try to think of everything we possibly can." 

Since late September, McMillan's staff has been attending meetings with
farmers throughout the state. They are supposed to be Q&A sessions about how
to comply with the new law. Some have devolved into shouting matches about
how much they hate the statute. A few weeks ago, Smith, the tomato farmer
whose workers fled Alabama, confronted state Senator Scott Beason, the
Republican who introduced the immigration law. Beason had come out to talk
to farmers, and Smith shoved an empty tomato bucket into his chest. "You
pick!" he told him. "He didn't even put his hands on the bucket," Smith
recalls. "He didn't even try." Says Beason: "My picking tomatoes would not
change or prove anything." 

While the politicians and business owners argue, others see opportunity.
Michael Maldonado, 19, wakes up at 4:30 each morning in a trailer in
Tuscaloosa, about an hour from Harvest Select, where he works as a fish
processor. Maldonado, who grew up in an earthen-floor shack in Guatemala,
says he likes working at the plant. "One hundred dollars here is 700
quetzals," he says. "The managers say I am a good worker." After three
years, though, the long hours and scant pay are starting to wear on him.
With the business in desperate need of every available hand, it's not a bad
time to test just how much the bosses value his labor. Next week he plans to
ask his supervisor for a raise. "I will say to them, 'If you pay me a little
more-just a little more-I will stay working here,' " he says. "Otherwise, I
will leave. I will go to work in another state."

 

 

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