Can't see them doing that, Ray.  They're not like that.

Ed
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Harrell 
  To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION' 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:48 PM
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  Perhaps they should seek an "American" solution to their problems.
  REH
   
  Military Weapons in Gangsters' Hands

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  December 05, 2011

  Daily Press, Victorville, Calif.|by Beatriz E. Valenzuela and Katie Lucia 

   

  Gangs are acquiring highpowered, military-grade weapons more frequently, 
according to the latest National Gang Intelligence Center Report. And FBI and 
law enforcement officials suggest gang members -- both enlisted and those 
working at military bases as contract civilians -- may be funneling the 
firearms to their street-level counterparts.

  In late July, 27 AK-47s were stolen from a Fort Irwin warehouse, officials 
said. Those close to the case, who would speak only under the condition of 
anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the subject, said 
investigators believe gang members were involved in the theft.

  Related Story: FBI Says Gangs Infiltrating the US Military

  One source said the base had hired parolees, and officials are investigating 
the possibility parolees may have been involved in the heist. The source 
believes that since the theft, the base has discontinued the practice.

  Gus Bahena, interim director of the public affairs office at Fort Irwin, said 
authorities couldn't comment on whether the base hires parolees, but did state 
officials were aware of gang issues.

  Christopher Grey, spokesman for the Army's Criminal Investigation Command in 
Quantico, Va., confirmed the independent agency that investigates felony-level 
crimes was actively working the Fort Irwin case but wouldn't comment on the 
details, stating they wanted to maintain the integrity of the investigation.



  "Regarding gangs in general, we continue to educate our community, both 
Soldiers and civilians, so that all can recognize and report suspected gang 
activity," Bahena said.

  As of April of this year, the NGIC has identified gang members from 53 gangs 
who are serving in the military. Members of 37 of those gangs -- including the 
notorious 18th Street and Mara Salvatrucha 13 -- have infiltrated the Army. 
Twenty-eight gangs have been identified within the Marine Corps' ranks and five 
in the Air Force.

  The exact number of enlisted gang members is hard to come by, as many times 
investigators only see graffiti or paraphernalia as evidence of gang activity. 
For example, investigators found evidence that the motorcycle gang Devils 
Diciples [sic] -- the same one California State University, San Bernardino 
Professor Steven Kinzey is allegedly tied to -- has members in the military, 
but that evidence was found in areas where several branches have access.

  While it appears the Army has the largest problem with gangs, some experts 
feel other branches may be underreporting the number of gang members within the 
rank and file.

  "I think the problem -- percentage wise -- is bigger in the Marines but there 
are no statistics to back that up since the Marines fail to admit it ever 
existed," said Richard Valdemar, a retired Los Angeles County Sheriff's 
Department sergeant and gang expert. "In incidents I am personally familiar 
with, it seems to be mostly in the Marines."

  According to the latest NGIC report released last month, gang members are 
getting their hands on a variety of military-grade weapons including rifles, 
grenades, artillery rounds and even body armor.

  In the first week of November, a known gang member and his wife were arrested 
in Adelanto after Victor Valley SMASH Gang Team officials found several weapons 
in their home including a military artillery round in their garage.

  Earlier this year, a field artillery round was found in an Apple Valley home, 
according to sheriff's reports. When it was detonated in the open desert, it 
created a 6-foot crater.

  It didn't surprise ex-Hammerskin Nation gang member and former Marine T.J. 
Leyden to hear gangsters are getting their hands on heavy explosives.

  "It's a lot harder to get firearms and rifles off a base but artillery rounds 
aren't that difficult," he said.

  According to Leyden, rifles and firearms are counted three times daily but 
when it comes to artillery rounds, it's much easier to give false numbers.

  "It's easy to say you fired 10 rounds when you only actually fired eight or 
six," the former Hesperia resident said.

  While it may be more difficult to smuggle assault rifles and similar weapons 
off bases and into the hands of gang members, it's being done.

  In November 2010, three former Marines were arrested in Los Angeles for 
selling assault weapons to members of the violent street gang, Florencia 13, 
according to the NGIC report. That same month, a Navy Seal from San Diego and 
two others were arrested in Colorado for smuggling about 18 military-issued 
machine guns from Iraq and Afghanistan to be sold and shipped to buyers in 
Mexico. It was unclear if any of the servicemen were gang members.

  Gang experts feel a more stringent qualification process during recruitment 
plus continued vigilance and education about gangs and their practices could 
help identify gang members within the ranks.

  "Every gang member in the military is a crap shoot," Valdemar said. "To whom 
do his loyalties truly stand with? We don't really know. That is the problem."

   

  From Military.com

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  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:01 PM
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  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Ed Weick 

  To: Ed Weick 

  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 6:55 PM

  Subject: Attawapiscat

   

  Attawapiscat, a small Native community on the shores of James Bay is very 
much in the news these days because of its sub-standard living conditions.  
There are many Native communities across Canada with large problems.  The 
following is my take on a community in nothern Saskatchewan I visited while 
doing a study back in the early 1990s.

   

  Ed

   


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    Undoubtedly, the community had valid economic and social reasons for 
existing at one time. During the fur and mission era, it serviced a largely 
subsistence, partly commercial (fur trapping, commercial fishing, casual labor) 
population that was widely dispersed on the land much of the time.

     

     

    The descendants of that population were drawn into town by a series of 
government requirements that were imposed mostly during the post WWII era: the 
requirement that kids attend school regularly; that the school be in the 
community; that health and hospital services be provided where people live 
(which was turned around into the requirement that people live where the health 
and hospital services are provided); that people be housed at national and 
provincial standards for Indians, and that community physical and service 
infrastructure exist to support that housing; that people be conveniently 
located so that welfare and other forms of subsidy could be administered to 
them; etc.

     

     

    It has become a symbiotic community: All of the institutions have been 
provided in a single place which in the administrative view is appropriate to 
the population and that allows government institutions to provide their 
services conveniently. The people, having lost their independence need the 
institutions. But the institutions also need the people to justify their 
existence in the community.

     


    Socially, the population maintains many of the values and attitudes of its 
land based culture. The people continue to try to be hunters, trappers, fishers 
and foragers, though being those things while living in the community full time 
is very difficult. So some of the land-based skills and attitudes have been 
converted to skills that allow survival in town, with foraging for money among 
the various bureaucracies being an especially useful skill.

     


    Such foraging makes economic sense, since the community has no industrial 
base. The only real income base, now and in future, is government, supplemented 
by occasional construction, some local business, some fishing, etc.
    Yet the money that the foragers obtain does not always make good sense 
socially. Wives often see one purpose in money - feeding the family - but 
husbands all too often see quite another - having a good time with their 
friends. This often leads to family violence.


     

    The government institutions which service the community are there not only 
to support and service the population, they are there to change it. They are 
not really support services in the sense of helping people achieve their own 
aspirations, they are coercive agents of social change - social engineers. When 
they put some of the administration of programs into local hands, they 
nevertheless maintain tight control to ensure that it is their objectives and 
not those of the local people that are met.

     

     

    The outcome has been a disruption and fragmentation of the community. Many 
people buy into the institutionally driven values, attitudes and actions, and 
the old ways get pushed into the background. The elders remain respected as 
custodians of old memories, but in reality wield little influence. They have 
taken on the roles of cultural icons, not much more.
     
     



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