I agree although I express it differently.      Can you imagine what that
50% would be doing to the culture and environment if they didn't have some
kind of social welfare and community network to keep them from starving? 

 

REH

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of michael gurstein
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:01 AM
To: 'Keith Hudson'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Krugman's the man.

 

I'm not sure I'm following all of this but providing funds for labour
intensive services both as "social capital"  and for building "human
capital"--health care, environmental protection and management, education,
social support etc.etc. would seem to be what Krugman is pointing to--these
are what are being cut back in the current austerity measures and they are
what need to be put in place now as both as immediatel social goods and as
"investments" for the future.  In a blogpost some time ago I argued for
<http://wp.me/pJQl5-4o> "intensification" as a strategy to respond to youth
unemployment (in that case in TunisiaI I think in light of recent
developments in Western Europe and elsewhere such a strategy is equally
necessary there.  The economics of it requires a break from existing
strategies (towards alternative currencies) but with unemployment rates
among the young in Southern Europe approaching 50% extremely dramatic
alternatives need to be explored.

 

M

 

 -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:05 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Krugman's the man.

Ray,

Extracting from Paul Krugman's latest prose:
<<<<
Economists have been debating this issue for several years, and the
structuralists won't take no for an answer, no matter how much contrary
evidence is presented.
>>>>
 
I would only begin to be persuaded by Krugman if he could mention one --
just one -- of the many types of labour-intensive jobs that will be required
in the coming years if the growing long-term unemployment (particularly of
the young) is be trimmed back.

Because Krugman can't tell me, I'll give him just one example. The housing
industry is one of the biggest employment sectors. If and when the housing
industry ever revives (to any extent) in America, you can be certain that
there'll be more architectural designers behind their drawing boards (or,
rather, in front of their CAD monitors). They'll be designing houses that
will require even fewer construction workers than ever before. What's more,
the longer the present recession lasts, the more likely it is that houses
will be made in factories and delivered on site.

In the case of future jobs it a case of one step forward (the specialist
job) and two steps backward (the bog standard job). This is where the
blinkers come down on Krugman's eyes. 

Keith

At 05:44 11/05/2012, you wrote:




 <http://www.nytimes.com/> The New York Times
 


May 10, 2012


Easy Useless Economics







By PAUL KRUGMAN
<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/pau
lkrugman/index.html?inline=nyt-per> 




A few days ago, I read an authoritative-sounding paper in The American
Economic Review, one of the leading journals in the field, arguing at length
that the nation's high unemployment rate had deep structural roots and
wasn't amenable to any quick solution. The author's diagnosis was that the
U.S. economy just wasn't flexible enough to cope with rapid technological
change. The paper was especially critical of programs like unemployment
insurance, which it argued actually hurt workers because they reduced the
incentive to adjust.

O.K., there's something I didn't tell you: The paper in question was
published in June 1939. Just a few months later, World War II broke out, and
the United States - though not yet at war itself - began a large military
buildup, finally providing fiscal stimulus on a scale commensurate with the
depth of the slump. And, in the two years after that article about the
impossibility of rapid job creation was published, U.S. nonfarm employment
rose 20 percent - the equivalent of creating 26 million jobs today.

So now we're in another depression, not as bad as the last one, but bad
enough. And, once again, authoritative-sounding figures insist that our
problems are "structural," that they can't be fixed quickly. We must focus
on the long run, such people say, believing that they are being responsible.
But the reality is that they're being deeply irresponsible.

What does it mean to say that we have a structural unemployment problem? The
usual version involves the claim that American workers are stuck in the
wrong industries or with the wrong skills. A widely cited recent article by
Raghuram Rajan of the University of Chicago asserts that the problem is the
need to move workers out of the "bloated" housing, finance and government
sectors.

Actually, government employment per capita has been more or less flat for
decades, but never mind - the main point is that contrary to what such
stories suggest, job losses since the crisis began haven't mainly been in
industries that arguably got too big in the bubble years. Instead, the
economy has bled jobs across the board, in just about every sector and every
occupation, just as it did in the 1930s. Also, if the problem was that many
workers have the wrong skills or are in the wrong place, you'd expect
workers with the right skills in the right place to be getting big wage
increases; in reality, there are very few winners in the work force.

All of this strongly suggests that we're suffering not from the teething
pains of some kind of structural transition that must gradually run its
course but rather from an overall lack of sufficient demand - the kind of
lack that could and should be cured quickly with government programs
designed to boost spending.

So what's with the obsessive push to declare our problems "structural"? And,
yes, I mean obsessive. Economists have been debating this issue for several
years, and the structuralistas won't take no for an answer, no matter how
much contrary evidence is presented.

The answer, I'd suggest, lies in the way claims that our problems are deep
and structural offer an excuse for not acting, for doing nothing to
alleviate the plight of the unemployed.

Of course, structuralistas say they are not making excuses. They say that
their real point is that we should focus not on quick fixes but on the long
run - although it's usually far from clear what, exactly, the long-run
policy is supposed to be, other than the fact that it involves inflicting
pain on workers and the poor.

Anyway, John Maynard Keynes had these peoples' number more than 80 years
ago. "But this long run," he wrote, "is a misleading guide to current
affairs. In the long run we are all dead. Economists set themselves too
easy, too useless a task if in tempestuous seasons they can only tell us
that when the storm is long past the sea is flat again."

I would only add that inventing reasons not to do anything about current
unemployment isn't just cruel and wasteful, it's bad long-run policy, too.
For there is growing evidence that the corrosive effects of high
unemployment will cast a shadow over the economy for many years to come.
Every time some self-important politician or pundit starts going on about
how deficits are a burden on the next generation, remember that the biggest
problem facing young Americans today isn't the future burden of debt - a
burden, by the way, that premature spending cuts probably make worse, not
better. It is, rather, the lack of jobs, which is preventing many graduates
from getting started on their working lives.

So all this talk about structural unemployment isn't about facing up to our
real problems; it's about avoiding them, and taking the easy, useless way
out. And it's time for it to stop.

 

Or how to make America Spain.

REH

 
 
 


MORE IN OPINION (3 OF 25 ARTICLES)







Editorial: The Human Cost of Ideology
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/opinion/the-human-cost-of-ideology.html?s
rc=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Fopinion%2Findex.jsonp
> 





May 10, 2012


The Human Cost of Ideology




For more than a year, House Republicans have energetically worked to
demolish vital social programs that have made this country both stronger and
fairer over the last half-century. At the same time, they have insisted on
preserving bloated military spending and unjustifiably low tax rates for the
rich. That effort reached a nadir on Thursday when the House voted
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/11/us/house-approves-310-billion-in-cuts.htm
l?hp>  to prevent $55 billion in automatic cuts imposed on the Pentagon as
part of last year's debt-ceiling deal, choosing instead to make all those
cuts, and much more, from domestic programs. 

If this bill were enacted, estimates suggest that nearly two million
Americans would lose food stamps
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/house-bill-offers-aid-cuts-to-save-mil
itary-spending.html?ref=federalbudgetus>  and 44 million others would find
them reduced. The bill would eliminate a program that allows disabled older
people to live at home and out of institutions. It cuts money that helps
low-income families buy health insurance. At the same time, the House bill
actually adds more than $8 billion to the Pentagon budget. 

In all, the bill would cut $310 billion from domestic programs; a third of
that comes out of programs that serve low- and moderate-income people. Other
provisions would slash by half the budget of the Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau, which was set up after the financial meltdown to protect
consumers from predatory lending and other abuses, and reduce the pay of
federal workers. 

Fortunately, it will never be taken up in the Senate, where the majority
leader, Harry Reid, has said it would
<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/76102_Page2.html>  "shred the
social safety net in order to protect tax breaks for the rich and inflate
defense spending." 

House Republicans are already claiming that this bill, along with the
equally inhumane overall 2013 budget written by Representative Paul Ryan of
Wisconsin, shows their seriousness in reducing the deficit and why they
should keep control of the House in November. In fact, it does the opposite
on both accounts - and serves as a reminder of their destructive priorities.


As a resolution to the debt-ceiling crisis, Republicans had already agreed
to $109 billion a year in automatic spending cuts - half from defense, half
from the domestic side - if lawmakers failed to agree to lower the deficit
in more reasonable ways such as mixing targeted cuts with tax increases on
the rich. Even Democrats who supported big defense cuts wanted them chosen
carefully, not with the sequester's cleaver. But Republicans refused to take
that path when the supercommittee deliberated and now are trying to make all
of the cuts on the domestic side. 

In just one particularly destructive example, the bill would eliminate the
social services block grant, a $1.7 billion fund that is given to the states
to help people struggling the hardest. According to the Center on Budget and
Policy Priorities <http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3765> , the
fund provides services to 23 million people, including Meals on Wheels and
other programs that help older Americans. It also helps pay for child care
assistance, foster care and juvenile justice at a time when states are
cutting back these programs. 

House Democrats offered an alternative bill
<http://democrats.budget.house.gov/press-release/van-hollen-offers-democrati
c-alternative-replace-sequester>  that would replace the $109 billion
sequester by raising taxes on the wealthy, ending oil company tax loopholes
and cutting farm subsidies, but it was rejected. Republicans are determined
to protect millionaires and defense contractors, no matter the costs to the
country. 
 
 


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