There won't be a great difference between the poor of England (and many countries in Europe) and America. They're already dispersed in towns and cities and won't be pouring off the land and into the hovel regions of the new super-metropolises. Happiness is relative. The former will be a great deal unhappier because they'll be comparing their lot with what they used to have (and what was promised them in the future by politicians at election times). In contrast, the recently-rural hovel poor of the super-metropolises, so long as they have just enough food and TV, will feel a sense of release from the constraints of their previous cultures, the womenfolk particularly.

The big difference between America and the European countries is that there is still an element of the frontier spirit in you. Apart from your 20-class (much the same as ours), you are relatively naive in sensing the future. Our birthrates have been dropping for two generations now, and steeply so for the past generation. Your family sizes (except for the Mormons!) have only recently started dipping below replacement level. As for your Ainu, I know next to nothing about them. I can't remember when I read anything about them in the thousands of current articles and news stories I have read on the Internet over the past several years except that some seem to be connected with running casinos on reservations. That last sentence was not -- repeat not -- intended to be offensive. It's just that my erudition certainly lets me down in the American First Nation department. I only know about indigenous Americans in the same general historical sense as many other native peoples in the world when invaded by imperialist powers.

As for Canadians, well . . . I'd better keep quiet about them on this list or I might have my head chopped off. As for Australians, and with an Australian son and three Australian grandchildren, I can write more freely. I don't think they'll have a great future because Australia's economy is almost completely dependent on the export of abundant resources and there's been little incentive to develop much else -- economically, scientifically or culturally. Their outstanding talent has been migrating to the UK for decades (and presumably to America, too) for a more interesting life.

Keith


At 09:51 15/07/2012, REH wrote:
Sort of like England to Ireland during the potato famine? Growing up in an English speaking layered society has obviously different from an English speaking society that has replaced each generation with a new generation of dissatisfied immigrants from England and the rest of the world. We are more generally dissatisfied and more than a little malcontent. Your Utopia with its happy lower class bears little resemblance to our here and the upper classes who believe that lower classdom is a moral failure makes a stable welfare state impossible. There's too much harassment. We have peace because we have police. As the police are being defunded, we will have less peace. But it is still interesting to me just how different the two English speaking societies are from one another. And then there is Canada and Australia. And then there is us. The Ainu of the English world. I must compliment you Keith on your erudition. I always something from your reading.

REH

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
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Subject: [Futurework] Almost Utopia

To be realistic we will never have an energy shortage again. Because great slabs of compressed ocean mud have been repeatedly pushed under the 'floating' continental rock for billions of years then fracked methane will always be available for any realistically conceivable world population for any realistically conceivable future. There'll be few relatively small regions of the earth's crust where one or more deep strata of shale gas will not lie immediately underneath.

Shale gas will be used for at least 1,000 years because, in the meantime -- and particularly within the next 100 years -- by far the most of the present excess world rural population will have ended up in the shanty suburbs of the presently fast-growing super-metropolises. There, if the present experience in Brazil, China, India, Indonesia and other countries is any guide at all, birth rates will decline to less than replacement. If the world-wide research surveys of the Abdul Latif Jameel Poverty Action Lab of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are any further guide then, if the hovel-dwellers are offered sufficient free or state-subsidized electricity to drive a TV and to receive, or the chance to earn, enough to maintain a minimum carbohydrate diet then they'll be content. Those newly-discovered mirror neurons of the brain, which so powerfully help us to self-identify with the rich and the heroes we read in novels or see on the TV screen, will do the trick for the vast majority.

Some of the hovel children, by virtue of a decent set of genes, exceptional parents and more than the normal ration of luck at different junctures, will be able to escape and the join the minority who live in the more prosperous parts of the super-metropolises. In this way they'll be similar to the small proportion of state-educated children in the advanced countries of the West who are nevertheless able to get into the elite universities from which they will almost automatically enter what I call the 20-class.

Because of the lack of consumer goods with uniquely new characteristics (now about 40 years on in the West), we are fast proceeding to a steady-state economy (much to the befuddlement of our politicians and their growing consternation) in which profits (necessary for further investment) will come from innovations that will continue to increase the efficiency of our production systems and infrastructures, not from status enhancing googaws (which, increasingly, will not require people to make them).

If the above sounds a bit Utopian, so it is. Quite besides a currency catastrophe which cannot be far off now due to the increasingly fragile Eurozone, millions of fracking wells in Europe, China and elsewhere will be joining the many thousands which are presently busy in America and supplying cheap methane. What is going to be the reaction of Russia and the Middle East countries which presently supply us with the bulk of our oil and gas? Their economies, almost totally deficient in small and middle industries, are completely dependent on their olefinic exports. Those countries will be creating a lot of trouble, we can be pretty sure.

Keith


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