KH: Ever since civilizations began they were dominated by elites. It is not a new phenomenon. Those in power have never been self-sacrificing but have always sacrificed others.
REH: Hmm! vv ale tla, (Yes and No) Since I've posted the first two paragraphs upon many occasions I would assume that KH simply doesn't believe what I say. I'm not surprised although it always saddens me. I shouldn't feel bad I guess since my hero, Historian Angie Debo, had it much worse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Debo They not only didn't believe her but barred her from teaching in Oklahoma when her history, quoted below, became an acknowledged classic. Apparatchiki anyone? Reality always has a way of intruding on things. I have a google alert on the Cherokee Nation and the Chief. The prior chief who was a Republican and Cherokee aristocracy, stopped the traditional housing program. The Democrat who defeated him is now more in the Cherokee tradition even though he isn't aristocracy and is more in line with the traditions that Angie Debo points out in the Dawes quote from 1883. The article from the Tahlequah newspaper is recent when the tradition of a "right to housing" was resumed. I've never understood the reference to Henry George in the Dawes quote since Harry seems more of the opinion of the defeated chief than the one who practices the traditional government. If traditional government towards rights to living and property is, according to Henry Dawes, not selfish enough then where does that put all of these years of discussions with Harry? It's really very confusing to me. It is worth noting that the CNO has a program for the elderly that includes assisted living and they have a National healthcare program that is free to all members of the Cherokee Nation. Unlike the people complaining about their healthcare in Canada, the UK and the US, the CNO citizens budget for their healthcare and take pride in recruiting the very best medical help available and the use the proceeds from their Casinos to make sure the facilities are as good as anywhere. I suspect the goal of every citizen being housed will eventually happen. $15,000 is half the poverty limit for American citizens. Government has a reason and Cherokees aren't lazy so there is no need to externally motivate them to work. Work is one of the four purposes and choices of life and one of the ways we learn the reason we came here in first place from Galunlati. REH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- "In 1883 a small group of Eastern humanitarians began to meet annually at Lake Mohonk, where with an agreeable background of natural beauty, congenial companionship, and crusading motive, they discussed the Indian problem. At their third meeting Senator Henry L. Dawes of Massachusetts, a distinguished Indian theorist, gave a glowing description of a visit of inspection he had recently made to the Indian Territory. The most partisan Indian would hardly have painted such an idealized picture of his people's happiness and prosperity and culture, but, illogically, the senator advocated a change in this perfect society because it held the wrong principles of property ownership. Speaking apparently of the Cherokees, he said: Angie Debo, "And Still the Waters Flow" Princeton U. press. "The head chief told us that there was not a family in that whole nation that had not a home of its own. There was not a pauper in that nation, and the nation did not owe a dollar. It built its own capitol, in which we had this examination, and it built its schools and its hospitals. Yet the defect of the system was apparent. They have got as far as they can go, because they own their land in common. It is Henry George's system, and under that there is no enterprise to make your home any better than that of your neighbors. There is no selfishness, which is at the bottom of civilization. Till this people will consent to give up their lands, and divide them among their citizens so that each can own the land he cultivates, they will not make much more progress." (36) (36) 1900, pp. 25-32; Lake Mohonk Conference, Report, 1904, pp 5-6; Department of the Interior, Annual Report, 1900, pp. 655-735. I was taught the old way very early in life. My father was the Superintendent of Schools at Picher on the Quapaw reservation. His salary in the 1950s was $3,500 a year and we scrimped for every penny of saving. I asked dad why the chief administrator for the school made so little money when the non-Indian schools that had less good programs than ours paid their Superintendent more and gave him a house for free. Dad looked at me with a kind of "you're not thinking" look and then said. "I won't take a salary increase until I can do that for my teachers as well." He also built them houses so that he could get the best teachers for his students available. But that's all another story. That was where I learned about the "old ways." Nudvwiv Aninoquisi, Medicine Priest, Nuyagi Keetoowah Society, Barryville, New York Tahlequah Daily Press August 10, 2012 Cherokee families get keys to homes By TEDDYE SNELL Staff Writer FORT GIBSON - Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker fulfilled a campaign commitment Thursday, as seven families received keys to their new tribally constructed homes. For decades, the tribe's Housing Authority built homes for citizens on land held in trust. In 2007, the tribal council approved legislation dissolving the Housing Authority, opting to provide mortgage assistance rather than building homes. Mortgage assistance and home rehabilitation are still available; home-building has been added to the tribe's housing program. "I can't tell you how proud I am to see these families move into their homes today," said Baker. "It has been a dream of mine for so many years to see the Cherokee Nation return to building homes for our citizens. As happy as I am for this day to come, I can assure you, no one is happier than these families standing here today. I speak on behalf of all the Cherokee Nation when I say welcome to your new home." All seven residences are three-bedroom, 1-1/2-bath brick homes near Fort Gibson in Muskogee County. Mail carrier Erica Leafer, 36, is a Cherokee citizen and the mother of four children. Until Thursday, Leafer had been living with her mother in Muskogee. "It's exciting," said Leafer. "We'll move in a little later on when it gets cooler. The kids have always gone to Fort Gibson schools, and they're so excited about moving into the new house. They'll live closer to their friends, and that's really great." The program's goal is to build 300 new homes per year for citizens living in the tribe's 14-county jurisdiction who earn $15,000 or more per year. Since the program doesn't use federal funds, there are no low-income restrictions. Leafer said she's thrilled the tribe is building homes. "I think it's wonderful that they're building houses again," said Leafer. "Rent is way out there [expensive]. Some people pay $600 a month for a three-bedroom place, and we're paying $350, and it includes taxes and insurance." According to the Cherokee Nation, homeowners pay $350 per month mortgage on a 30-year term. Schools in the area will also benefit from the home ownership program, as public schools receive $2,800 in federal impact aid for each Indian child in the district living in Indian housing. Hilldale Middle School sixth-grade teacher Melissa Patterson, also a Cherokee citizen, is moving from a rented two-bedroom house in Muskogee. "My family is so excited about this house," said Patterson. "It's the first time my kids have ever had rooms of their own. The economy hasn't been very good. I work two jobs, and everything seems to be going higher, except for peoples' paychecks. The Cherokee Nation has just done incredible things for my family." Baker initiated the housing program immediately after taking office in November 2011. "Growing up, I saw the impact the tribe's mutual help homes had on families I knew," said Baker. "It built capital, self-esteem and even improved the grades of children in those homes. Our tribal citizens today can still benefit from all those things." More than 950 Cherokee citizens have signed up for the program. Those who already own land will be among the first to have homes built. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:53 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; michael gurstein Subject: Re: [Futurework] The moral bankruptcy of our ruling classes At 14:38 13/08/2012, Mike G wrote: [] The moral bankruptcy of our ruling classes < http://click.email.businessspectator.com.au/?qs=f5bf84c8b7c8122b0aacc64fdcbb a772d1cde9336c6e3098a9a0bf5ff213c6c7398091330c947fab <http://click.email.businessspectator.com.au/?qs=f5bf84c8b7c8122b0aacc64fdcb ba772d1cde9336c6e3098a9a0bf5ff213c6c7398091330c947fab> > 13 Aug 2012 | 7:18 AM | Alan Kohler The world is increasingly dominated by elites. Once they were self-sacrificing, now they are self-serving. read more > Ever since civilizations began they were dominated by elites. It is not a new phenomenon. Those in power have never been self-sacrificing but have always sacrificed others. They are no more self-serving now than they have always been. Whenever there has been a significant environmental/economic/innovative/military event one or more new power groups rise to the top and takes as many privileges for themselves as possible. The only possible way of countering greedy power groups is by public exposure, but the chances of that don't occur too often. Keith < http://click.email.businessspectator.com.au/?qs=f5bf84c8b7c8122b0aacc64fdcbb a772d1cde9336c6e3098a9a0bf5ff213c6c7398091330c947fab <http://click.email.businessspectator.com.au/?qs=f5bf84c8b7c8122b0aacc64fdcb ba772d1cde9336c6e3098a9a0bf5ff213c6c7398091330c947fab> > http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/hayman-oligarchies-elites -pd20120813-X4SQN?opendocument <http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/hayman-oligarchies-elite s-pd20120813-X4SQN?opendocument&src=idp&utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&ut m_content=89496&utm_campaign=kgb&modapt=commentary> &src=idp&utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=89496&utm_campaign=kg b&modapt=commentary _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework Keith Hudson, Saltford, England http://allisstatus.wordpress.com <http://allisstatus.wordpress.com/>
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