You are right about the willingness of the Russians to use other languages. In 1990-91, I gave a series of lectures in English w/discussion in Russian at the USSR Academy in Moscow, or systems analysis, design, and performance, with applications to societal issues. The members of the Academy had no problem at all with the lectures, and preferred to discuss/argue with each other and me in a mix of Russian and English. Fascinating, and impressive.
On Jan 19, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Ray Harrell wrote: > Why have so many products of the Soviet System of education made mincemeat > of our citizens when they were freed to come here and compete in Computers, > education, the market and the arts etc. They have turned the fragile > cultural system of Emerson, Ives and the few composers we have here into a > Tchaikovsky rout. > > If you want to know what they think about all of this let us look at the > acid in the face of the current head of the Bolshoi. Why bring Russians > into this? Simple. > > The same stories were told in the 1960s about Russian Schools, technicians > and Art. > > No one paid attention to those American books on computer technology that > proved too hard for American colleges to use so the publisher sold these > English texts to the Russian schools and they used them in the classroom in > English. In America if you speak another language in the classroom it is > considered treasonous. States even pass laws against it. > > So I will wait for North Korea to open up and for others who speak the > language, to tell me about what was happening there. South Korea is > great. They give far more to the development of Classical cultural > products than the US and they are the size of New Jersey. > > Talking like this recently got me into a lot of trouble on the job. Oh > well! Censorship and poor hearing is not limited to Tyrant states. > > REH > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:47 PM > To: [email protected]; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME > DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' > Cc: 'Jan Crang' > Subject: [Futurework] FW: [ PFIR ] Eric Schmidt's daughter Sophie's report > on their North Korea trip -- fascinating! > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of PFIR > (People For Internet Responsibility) Announcement List > Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ PFIR ] Eric Schmidt's daughter Sophie's report on their North > Korea trip -- fascinating! > > > Eric Schmidt's daughter Sophie's report on their North Korea trip -- > fascinating! > > http://j.mp/WsA3FC (Google Sites / Sophie in North Korea) > > "Ordinary North Koreans live in a near-total information bubble, > without any true frame of reference. I can't think of any reaction to > that except absolute sympathy. My understanding is that North Koreans > are taught to believe they are lucky to be in North Korea, so why > would they ever want to leave? They're hostages in their own country, > without any real consciousness of it. And the opacity of the > country's inner workings--down to the basics of its economy--further > serves to reinforce the state's control. The best description we > could come up with: it's like The Truman Show, at country scale." > > - - - > > --Lauren-- > Lauren Weinstein ([email protected]): http://www.vortex.com/lauren > Co-Founder: People For Internet Responsibility: > http://www.pfir.org/pfir-info > Founder: > - Network Neutrality Squad: http://www.nnsquad.org > - PRIVACY Forum: http://www.vortex.com/privacy-info > - Data Wisdom Explorers League: http://www.dwel.org > - Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance: > http://www.gctip.org > Member: ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: > http://lauren.vortex.com > Google+: http://vortex.com/g+lauren / Twitter: > Google+http://vortex.com/t-lauren > Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 / Skype: vortex.com > > _______________________________________________ > pfir mailing list > http://lists.pfir.org/mailman/listinfo/pfir > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
