But Sharia courts would only pertain to two parties who are both Muslim,
is my understanding. Which would not bode well for Muslim women in most
cases since Muslim women have few laws that protect them. The
introduction of Sharia courts to Great Britain are a step backwards, not
only for Muslim women and their families, but for civilized justice and
national law enforcement overall.
I see your point about the rest.
Natalia
On 14/03/2013 9:53 AM, Ray Harrell wrote:
It's called the "Law of Blood" amongst the Cherokee and was the law
enforced by the seven clans which ruled the nation. But that was
all changed when the English insisted their way was better and
shattered our culture in a grand Diaspora. As the social contract in
the US breaks down around class, these ancient legal systems are
arising again because our people can't get recompense from the English
law. When the English thought that it was safe, they once again
allowed our language and the religion to emerge, in 1978, feeling that
they were not subject to either. The Sharia law that Oklahoma Anglos
are afraid of is in reality the sovereignty of the Native Peoples in
the old Indian Territory and the emergence of traditional legal
systems. Not the Hollywood variety. The Cherokee Nation had a
Supreme Court, the building still stands in Tahlequah, and Cherokee
lawyers were the first "State" lawyers when the English changed
"Indian Territory" to the "State" of Oklahoma. The Oklahoma Anglos
are now afraid of that and Sharia is a stand in for their fear of
Native Courts. That's why the Violence Against Women Act was held up
in Congress. They didn't like Anglos being subject to "Sharia"
(Stand in for Indian National Courts) when they raped an Indian woman
as defined in the VAWA. "Oh what dark and entangled webs we weave."
REH
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On the surface, settlement between the two parties sounds like a
workable solution which could spare many lives.
If the victimized party is pressured by community or authorities to
arrive at leniency, justice may not necessarily prevail. Especially
for women.
I never would have guessed that this method of settlement existed in
today's Saudi Arabia, and it seems worthy of study and consideration.
Natalia
On 12/03/2013 5:17 PM, de Bivort Lawrence wrote:
This was reported a couple of days ago in the Saudi press, eg ARAB
NEWS. the committee referred to only found that death by firing
squad was permissible. Neither this committee nor the Saudi
government decide the matter: each regional government decides
policy on this. As of a few days ago, at least one prisoner on
"death row" had requested a firing squad.
The discussion on this in Saudi Arabia is quite similar to that in
the US, ranging from the death penalty itself, to the method
itself. Ironic, in my view, that the issue of cruelty is raised in
the context capital punishment.
In Saudi Arabia, unlike the US, the perpetrator and the victim (or
the victim's family) can negotiate a voluntary settlement or
restitution that then supersedes and voids governmental action and
punishment. Many crimes, including murder, get resolved this way.
Cheers,
Lawry
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On Mar 12, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Arthur Cordell <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia --- A Saudi newspaper says a ministerial
committee is looking into formally dropping public beheadings
as a method of execution in the oil-rich kingdom because it
can't find enough swordsmen.
Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world where a death
sentence results in beheading in a public square.
A government committee argues that a change to execution by
firing squad would be fine under the laws of Islam, the Saudi
daily newspaper al-Youm reports.
"This solution seems practical, especially in light of
shortages in official swordsmen or their belated arrival to
execution yards in some incidents," the committee said in a
statement.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/03/12/lack-of-swordsmen-leads-saudi-arabia-to-consider-dropping-public-beheadings-as-method-of-execution/
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