Just finished the book below which addresses some of the questions you
raise.

 

See also
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/who-has-the-power/article4189516/

 

Power: Where Is It? 

by Donald J. Savoie
<http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/139770.Donald_J_Savoie>  

 

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In this informative critique of contemporary leadership, renowned political
scientist Donald Savoie poses and answers the crucial questions: where is
power located, and who is in charge? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In recent years it
has become extremely difficult to pinpoint the location of political and
economic power, making it complicated to determine who is to...more
<http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8508266-power>  In this informative
critique of contemporary leadership, renowned political scientist Donald
Savoie poses and answers the crucial questions: where is power located, and
who is in charge? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In recent years it has become
extremely difficult to pinpoint the location of political and economic
power, making it complicated to determine who is to blame for political and
economic catastrophes and leading to increased disenchantment with Western
politicians and bureaucrats. Power considers how forces such as
globalization, the new media, the changing role of the courts in
parliamentary democracies, the partisanship of political parties in shaping
policy, and collapsing boundaries between governments and within government
departments have caused citizens to feel their countries are less
democratic. Savoie argues that power is leaving institutions and
organizations and going to powerful individuals in both the public and
private sectors, who often push aside formal processes in order to drive
change.(less) <http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8508266-power>  

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:12 PM
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Gelt

 

You're right, Ray, we are indeed overlooking something much deeper.  Not
wanting to be an economist anymore, I've taken to rereading some of the
stuff I have on existentialism and once again I've encountered Nietzsche and
the will to power.  I'm also looking at a book by John Gray, "Black Mass",
in which the author argues that social and political movements that were
intended to develop an ultimately good and equitable society typically
turned out to be great disasters.  The enlightenment led to the head
choppings of the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars, while the
rational arguments posed by Marx led to Stalinist Russia.  American
democracy was, and still is, a great idea, but we now have a society deeply
divided into the 99% and the 1%.  (80% and 20% according to Keith.)

 

And this is where Nietzsche comes in.  It seems that it's not the
acquisition of wealth that's at play, but the acquisition of power.  In the
case of the US, the accumulation of wealth is a means of achieving great
power; the more of the nation's wealth under your control, the more powerful
you are.  During the past decade or so, and especially during the sub-prime
mortgage debacle, there was a major shift toward concentrating wealth in the
hands of the few as the finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sector
became a much larger part of the economy.

 

So, you really have to wonder who it is that holds power.  The US strikes me
as a deeply divided system.  Obama has been under considerable criticism
because he can't do what's expected of him as President.  But maybe he
really can't do it because other  more powerful interests won't let him.
Americans pretend they live in a democracy, but do they really?  I read
something today that said there were four lobbyists in Washington for every
elected member of the House and Senate.  Who pays the lobbyists and sends
them in?  Who determines what the politicians decide?  Not likely the people
who voted for their representatives.

 

Having demonstrated that I'm neither an economist nor a philosopher but just
an old guy babbling I'll stop here.

 

Ed

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Ray Harrell <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'
<mailto:[email protected]>  ; 'Ed Weick'
<mailto:[email protected]>  

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:05 PM

Subject: RE: [Futurework] Gelt

 

The problem I would argue, is that balancing the economy is not the same as
balancing the national culture.   The rise in guns in America is more
troubling to the bankers than they know.   My parents knew Pretty Boy Floyd
and Goldie McIntyre during the Depression.   Today there are more guns in
the lower classes than ever before.     These gun owners have also bought
the Hollywood myths about a Western US that never was.   Criminals like the
James brothers and Quantrill were from an earlier generation after a
disastrous Civil War and Reconstruction.    It wasn't a good romantic time.
It was more like the soldiers in "Dances with Wolves."    This aggressive
ignorance came back in the 1930s Depression which the Rockefellers claimed
wasn't happening.   Today the upper classes mirror the same entitled
arrogance.     Howeve today the lower classes have Assault rifles that can
take out a whole swat team protecting the banks.   

 

Between the images from the violent commercial entertainment and the video
games, we have what constitutes "practice" for the conflict to come.
If a video game can be practice for an Apache Helicopter, why can't it be
practice for a criminal family?     

 

Meanwhile is it really only about Gelt?    Or are we looking at something
much deeper here?     What is your understanding of this on the deeper
levels of social balance and public mental health?   I find the "Invisible
Hand" and the preaching of self interest over everything to be narcissistic
drivel.     I believe economists should police themselves and their Domain,
much more rigorously if for nothing else, to protect their children from the
people with the assault weapons. 

 

REH

 

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Cordell
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:24 PM
To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'; 'Ed Weick'
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Gelt

 

So it looks like a long slow immiseration of the middle class, the savings
and pension class.  There will be consequences.  Hard to predict but equally
hard to say that this will all go off smoothly.  

 

Arthur

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:58 AM
To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; Ed Weick
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Gelt

 

Ed,

But governments don't print money "recklessly"! Whoever said they did?
Certainly not me.

Governments print money carefully. In recent years the Fed and the BoE have
been printing more than would be strictly justified (productivity alone) in
order to make sure that their central bank rates are always less than
inflation.

For an interesting discussion of this by one of the most respected US
economists, Carmen Reinhart, read the following converstion:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/interview-with-harvard-economis
t-carmen-reinhart-on-financial-repression-a-893213.html   

Keith





At 16:30 12/04/2013, you wrote:

Undoubtedly, if money were printed recklessly and in large quantities, the
result would be runaway inflation.  But what modern central bank is going to
do reckless printing?  Not likely any.  Modern central banks don't behave
that way.  Typically, the money supply rises gradually and inflation is a
gradual process, rising by two or three percentage points per year at the
most.  In Canada, a basket of goods purchased for $100 in 2003 would cost
about $120 today.  This poses no problem for people who have managed to keep
their incomes growing at a rate equivaletn to inflation, but it is hard on
people who rely on incomes that do not change or change only slowly.  It
therefore is a factor in the growing gap between the high incomed and the
low incomed.
 
Ed
 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Arthur Cordell <mailto:[email protected]>  

To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION,EDUCATION'
<mailto:[email protected]>  ; 'Keith Hudson'
<mailto:[email protected]>  

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:52 AM

Subject: Re: [Futurework] Gelt

 

Krugman

 

But the runaway inflation that was supposed to follow reckless
money-printing - inflation that the usual suspects have been declaring
imminent for four years and more - keeps not happening. 

 

Me

 

Stay tuned.

 

From: [email protected] [
mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Ray Harrell

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:36 AM

To: 'Keith Hudson'; 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION'

Subject: Re: [Futurework] Gelt

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/12/opinion/krugman-lust-for-gold.html?hp 

 

REH

 

From: Keith Hudson [ mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] 

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:27 AM

To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; Ray Harrell

Subject: Re: [Futurework] Gelt

 

The NYT article is all very glib and I'm sure a lot of readers will be
encouraged to sell their personal gold. If there was any clear logic in the
article it's to be found at the end with what Peter Schiff says.

Keith    

At 14:29 11/04/2013, you wrote:

According to the Science Channel, the Ancient Astronauts no longer need gold
to run their space ships. 

 

REH

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/business/gold-long-a-secure-investment-los
es-its-luster.html?hp 

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