You guys are really into flaunting. REH
-----Original Message----- From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:03 AM To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION; Ray Harrell Cc: Keith Hudson Subject: Re: [Futurework] Capitalism is killing our morals, our future - MarketWatch At 01:09 30/04/2013, you wrote: >(REH) Why are all of those English austerity types vacationing in >"lefty, commie, socialist" Tuscany instead of helping the local >business. Why not just stay home and spend all of that money at the pub? (KH) Because he'd have one fewer status signals to flaunt. Keith > Or, does the beauty of >"lefty, commie, socialist" vineyards, farms and piazzas compared to the >UK locals, spell something special that feeds the soul and refreshes the heart? >Couldn't that be done in Merry Old England? Or is it a matter of, as in >Ireland, punishing them for thinking of beauty after truth? I'm a long >ways from there and just telling what it looks like from a distance. What >is your understanding of that? I'm willing to be wrong about that. >Remember, Americans complained when Obama sent his children to Trinidad for >vacation. I didn't but the GOP did. > > REH > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pete >Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:41 PM >To: RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION >Subject: Re: [Futurework] Capitalism is killing our morals, our future >- MarketWatch > > > >On Mon, 29 Apr 2013, Keith Hudson wrote: > > > At 05:16 29/04/2013, Ray Harrell wrote: > > > Maybe the WSJ and Krugman are collaborating? > > > REH > > > > Maybe Krugnan is up to his old rhetorical tricks. As usual, he > > raises a topic very early on without giving evidence. Then he leaves > > it largely alone until right at the end of his piece where he > > returns to the topic as though his view on it had thus been proved. > > The Greeks had a term for this type of invalid argument. > > > > In this case Krugman talks of austerity in his first paragraph and > > mentions academic studies as though they had been found invalid by > > subsequent academic studies. > >You seem to have overlooked the embedded link, but regardless, I don't >know what rock you would have had to have been under to miss the >Reinhart - Rogoff fiasco last week. > > >Because he doesn't actually say this specifically the reader is > > inclined not to pick fault with it. > >Good, as they certainly shouldn't > > However, when he talks of austerity in his > > last paragraph it's as though austerity has actually been disproved > > in >some > > academic paper or other, not to speak of the body of the essay he > > has just written. > >Yes. > > -Pete > > > > > Yes, of course, there's a powerful tide against austerity by > > electorates >which > > have been feather-bedded until recently (e.g. Greece, Portugal, > > Italy) and also by governments which are too frightened to try it > > (e.g. France, >Belgium). > > Nevertheless, those countries which have tried it and succeeded > > (e.g. West Gernany 'swallowing' a bankrupt East Germany 20 years > > ago) or are in the process of succeeding today (e.g. Iceland, > > Iceland) can only confirm that austerity is essential. > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > ><http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/opinion/krugman-the-story-of-our-tim >e.htm >l?hp>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/29/opinion/krugman-the-story-of-our >-time >.html?hp > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur >Cordell > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:59 AM > > > To: 'RE-DESIGNING WORK, INCOME DISTRIBUTION, EDUCATION' > > > Subject: [Futurework] Capitalism is killing our morals, our future > > > - MarketWatch > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > > ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >om > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Kurtz > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:48 AM > > > Subject: [Ottawadissenters] Capitalism is killing our morals, our > > > future >- > > > MarketWatch > > > > > > > > > > > > The nanny state went too far in the other direction, but he is > > > correct >about > > > much here in my opinion. > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > excerpts: > > > Unfortunately, we never had that debate during the 30-year rise of >?market > > > triumphalism. As a result, without quite realizing it ? without > > > ever deciding to do so ? we drifted from having a market economy > > > to being a market society.? > > > And ?the difference is this: A market economy is a tool ... for >organizing > > > productive activity. A market society is a way of life in which > > > market values seep into every aspect of human endeavor. It?s a > > > place where >social > > > relations are made over in the image of the market.? The > > > difference is profound. > > > > > > > > > The good professor is a great teacher, with only one glaring flaw > > > in his > > > logic: he?s too idealistic, too quixotic. You don?t have to be a >fatalist to > > > know that without a total economic collapse, market capitalists ? >including > > > 1,426 billionaires, Wall Street bankers, hedgers, lobbyists and > > > every >other > > > special interest getting rich off the new market society ? will > > > never voluntarily surrender their control over the American political system. > > > Rather, they will blindly continue down their self-destructive > > > path with >an > > > absolute conviction they are divinely guided by the Invisible Hand > > > of >Adam > > > Smith, and perhaps even God. > > > Meanwhile, we have no choice but wait patiently till the collapse, >anxiously > > > aware that our bizarre political system will just keep degrading >America?s > > > moral values, pricing, buying, selling, trading morals like > > > commodities, because in the final analysis everything has a price > > > and everyone has a price in our hot new exciting Market Society. > > > > > > > > > ><http://www.marketwatch.com/Story/story/print?guid=01AA1916-AEA6-11E2-B >A04-0 >02128040CF6>http://www.marketwatch.com/Story/story/print?guid=01AA1916- >02128040CF6>AEA6- >11E2-BA04-002128040CF6 > > > > > > > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > > __,_._,___ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Futurework mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > > >_______________________________________________ >Futurework mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework > >_______________________________________________ >Futurework mailing list >[email protected] >https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [email protected] https://lists.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
