Hello Natalia, Interesting about your being Canadian. Don't want to get into comparisons here because there is no comparison in misery and abuse. Each person experiences their own suffering and in my experiences they are just not comparable. Each person has to struggle not to pass the abuse from the past on. Sometimes we even have to forget and forgive our enemies as well as acknowledging the sacrifices of our friends in our survival. I don't think of this as Messianic or religious but simply the need to survive and not let those who abused be the winners in the game.
I tried to attach a study that Mike Hollinshead sent to me this morning. It wouldn't go through so here is the URL <http://www.trc.ca/websites/trcinstitution/index.php?p=580> http://www.trc.ca/websites/trcinstitution/index.php?p=580 The history: They came for the Children, and the section "You are no longer Indians" deals with what we were talking about. "Gee whiz, it's amazing how easy they died, and we were just trying to help!" People who see themselves as righteous and doing righteous things that kill 50% of the student population. "Oops we did it again!" In our national laws a person who causes a death owes a life to the family (clan) of the deceased. Can you imagine if Canada or the US lived by the "Law of Blood." People would think before they do stupid things with others and other people's children. Both Mike and I were paid writer consultants on this project although we are in the hiding bushes. We are very proud of the work achieved by the commission and this product although our contribution was one of research. I too graduated from a Native K-12 School here in America with many of the same problems as mentioned in this report. Happily, my father was a part of the clean-up and solution to the problem in our school system although the mining pollution eventually made the environment uninhabitable fifty years after he set the school on its feet and built the plant and began the healing of the educational system. Right down to the time when the town was abandoned, the schools were a part of the pride and success of the place with many students who became accomplished. You've heard my story before so I won't repeat it. But the point is that we all have our special histories and sometimes it's a real problem for those who have been abused not to become those who abuse others. I don't know about you or the others on this list, but I've done things that I'm not proud of in my lifetime. Some things that I will carry to my grave not having paid for. I'm often relieved when I do pay for them although some think me unlucky for having to. I don't believe we escape those things. I once sat with an executive of the Warner Lambert company in his Silver Cloud talking about the Carlos Castaneda books. They had just been published. His statement was that they couldn't possibly be true. I asked why not? He said, because if they are true then "what does that say about us?" "How could we have treated people with such gifts so poorly?" That's a beginning. Castaneda was a fad but Google Earth has proven most of the stories about great pre-Columbian civilizations to have been true. A good satellite picture of traces in the Jungles of Brazil and the Yucatan not to mention the circles in Canada, makes all of those stories by the Elders told to anthropologists seem less bizarre. Even Castaneda in his yarns seems conservative when compared to Terra Preta and the great water cities of the Amazon now being covered by the Brazilian economist's dams. (You can almost understand the Madam President if you imagine her stripped naked, hung upside down and being abused by the previous administrations. A story told in the New York Times. She's doing as the Yonega did to the Seneca in upstate New York and during Jimmy Carter's administration covering the most sacred city of my people in Tennessee. Chota, the ancient white city of peace. REH From: futurework-boun...@lists.uwaterloo.ca [mailto:futurework-boun...@lists.uwaterloo.ca] On Behalf Of D & N Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:44 PM To: futurework@lists.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: [Futurework] FW: [Dewayne-Net] The Real Numbers: Half of America in Poverty -- and It's Creeping toward 75% Hi Ray, Interesting numbers. I'll send you some more, but am pressed for time today. I'm unsure where you got the idea that I immigrated. I'm Canadian born. My parents, following their respective concentration camp and German work slave years, were offered the chance to come to Canada after the war. This would not have been their first choice, because their families were in the Ukraine, but death would have been a certainty had they returned, and their families further imperilled. My father had been studying political economy in Lvov, a medieval, extremely well appointed city, when first incarcerated in Polish-controlled Ukraine, for being a freedom fighter. He ended up in German hands, like so many other prisoners, to endure two concentration camps, one being Dachau. My mother was stolen from home at age 17 to become a farm slave. She was warned not to return after the war, and managed to evade authorities trying to bring back the work slaves like cattle. So, their arrival here had more to do with victimization, rather than wanting to create a better life elsewhere as hopeful immigrants. I wish that you could understand that your daughter made a choice that probably saved her spirit, if not her physical health. Moscow is gloomy, dangerous and polluted as hell--especially the water. Had she really been meant to pursue that direction for arts, it would have surely plagued her within the US. New York offers excellent Stanislavsky based training, not to mention countless other avenues. She had her reasons, and not having all that she needed, physically or emotionally, would have been amongst them. Ray, you not only possessed great intelligence, but were also subjected to the right circumstances, both good and bad, a recipe out of which drive to be the best for the sake of experiencing fullest understanding and possibility would and could be developed. Not unlike Reisman's description of time, place, energies and biology all playing a role, rather than mere genetic programming, the polymath and virtuoso both will never be duplicated, though we understand that more are possible given adequate talent, inner desire, nurturing and security. It does not mean obvious opportunities others see will be the right path for that particular mind or soul. Nor does it necessarily mean that one's personal regrets surrounding opportunities were the best path to follow at that time. More to follow, on that future competence bit. I await Keith's response. Natalia On 27/05/2013 7:10 PM, Ray Harrell wrote: Natalia, ever wonder why you immigrated? I think my daughter may eventually wish that she had taken that scholarship to the Stanislavski Institute in Moscow. I don't enjoy bureaucrats but I enjoy capitalists even less. If you have what you need, you are free to choose to do what makes your life significant as long as you have the discipline to maintain the competence. I've had that but I don't see it for the future. Communism failed in the West, now we are seeing the failure of Capitalism. What's left? Keith's version of Socialism? Maybe you could tell us a little more about that Keith? REH -----Original Message----- From: futurework-boun...@lists.uwaterloo.ca [mailto:futurework-boun...@lists.uwaterloo.ca] On Behalf Of michael gurstein Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 7:45 PM To: Futurework Subject: [Futurework] FW: [Dewayne-Net] The Real Numbers: Half of America in Poverty -- and It's Creeping toward 75% -----Original Message----- From: dewayne-...@warpspeed.com [mailto:dewayne-...@warpspeed.com] On Behalf Of Dewayne Hendricks Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of Dewayne-Net Subject: [Dewayne-Net] The Real Numbers: Half of America in Poverty -- and It's Creeping toward 75% The Real Numbers: Half of America in Poverty -- and It's Creeping toward 75% The Census Bureau has reported that one out of six Americans lives in poverty. A shocking figure. But it's actually much, much worse. By Paul Buchheit May 26 2013 <http://www.alternet.org/economy/real-numbers-half-america-poverty-and-its-c reeping-toward-75-0> <http://www.alternet.org/economy/real-numbers-half-america-poverty-and-its-c reeping-toward-75-0 <http://www.alternet.org/economy/real-numbers-half-america-poverty-and-its-c reeping-toward-75-0> > The Census Bureau has reported that one out of six Americans lives in poverty. A shocking figure. But it's actually much worse. Inequality is spreading like a shadowy disease through our country, infecting more and more households, and leaving a shrinking number of financially secure families to maintain the charade of prosperity. 1. Almost half of Americans had NO assets in 2009 Analysis of Economic Policy Institute data shows that Mitt Romney's famous 47 percent, the alleged 'takers,' have taken nothing. Their debt exceeded their assets in 2009. 2. It's Even Worse 3 Years Later Since the recession, the disparities have continued to grow. An OECD report states that "inequality has increased by more over the past three years to the end of 2010 than in the previous twelve," with the U.S. experiencing one of the widest gaps among OECD countries. The 30-year decline in wages has worsened since the recession, as low-wage jobs have replaced formerly secure middle-income positions. 3. Based on wage figures, over half of Americans are now IN poverty. According to IRS data, the average household in the bottom 50% brings in about $18,000 per year. That's less than the poverty line for a family of three ($19,000) or a family of four ($23,000). Census income figures are about 25% higher, because they include unemployment compensation, workers' compensation, Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, public assistance, veterans' payments, and various other monetary sources. Based on this supplemental income, the average household in the bottom 50% brings in about $25,000, which is just above the $23,000 poverty line for a family of four. 4. Based on wage figures, 75% of Americans are NEAR poverty. According to IRS data, the average household in the bottom 75% earns about $31,000 per year. To be eligible for food assistance, a family can earn up to 130% of the federal poverty line, or about $30,000 for a family of four. Again, Census income figures are about 25% higher because of SNAP reporting requirements, bringing average household income for the bottom 75% to about $39,000. 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