I am by no means an expert in this field, but I'd like to have my $0.02 
worth in this discourse.  Isn't part of the problem the following two key 
elements:

1. The short term solution is "rewarded" in that it is least politically 
risky to try to bite the bullet of sustainable transport (and industry!), 
despite the reality that ignoring the problem is suicidal in the long 
term.  Hence the woeful history over the last half century of the leading 
firms "buying and burying" more environmentally friendly private transport 
technologies (e.g. LH2) and the lamentably poor level of funding for either 
research into alternative technologies or support for lifestyle changes 
such as telecommuting.

2. The issue is distorted in that the power elite are least impacted, even 
by the comparatively minor vagaries of energy costs we are experiencing 
(which I would strongly agree are considerably less than the "real" 
environmental costs).  They continue to be chauffuered around, cocooned in 
their "gas guzzlers", oblivious to the situation.  Those who would be 
required to make the "hard decisions" would also be those less impacted by 
them.

I may end up being flamed here but I'll throw in a few points and questions 
because I'd be interested in list members' reactions.

1. My impression is that it is ultimately impossible to develop a public 
transport mode that even approximates the convenience of private transport 
(I exclude European cities from this generalisation, obviously).  While the 
Olympic transport system I was fortunate enough to avail myself of 
yesterday _was_ as efficient as a private vehicle would have been, this 
standard as only been attainable through a massive, short-burst, national 
effort, involving commandeering a high proportion of the entire country's 
bus fleet.  Ordinarily, in my own location in inner suburban Sydney, I 
would be sacrificing almost an hour a day to move to public transport.  Is 
this a global experience?

2. Based on (1), this admitted assumption of mine has meant that any move 
(enforced or voluntary) on the part of we mere mortals to sustainable 
transportation entails a lifestyle sacrifice, i.e. less free time at home 
as we stand in queues on railway platforms, slog home on the sidewalk, or 
wait at bus stops.  This sacrifice would also be being demanded at a time 
when the ruling elite are demanding more and more working hours, as labour 
market competition globalises.

3. While I agree in principle with making energy prices reflect the 
environmental costs, how would you handle it in reality?  In Sydney (and 
all the Australian capitals), we would be basically rendering it impossible 
for hundreds of thousands of workers in far flung suburbs to commute.  What 
is to happen to them?  A 50 km pushbike commute every day is very difficult 
for all but elite athletes.  The public transport system would be 
hopelessly overwhelmed - not to mention the social costs of adding three or 
four hours per day to the ten to twelve hours work being demanded by 
mainstream corporate employers.  What about the unemployed?  What about 
child care??  Places are short now, but if parents were waiting in 
kilometre-length queues for buses, trains or ferries, for many hours each 
week, the child care workload would dramatically increase.  What about the 
inflationary impact of additional delivery costs?  Our rail network 
couldn't possibly cope with delivering all freight across the country.  And 
these are just the challenges a comparatively wealthy country (Australia) 
would face....

Hence, we face a major problem of matching long term necessity with short 
term practical reality.  My own inexpert opinion is the only way that we 
could meet such a challenge is to treat the situation of the "wartime 
equivalent" emergency that it is.  That means sacrifice being proportionate 
to the resources individuals, and nations, have gained from our current 
unsustainable means of production.

Maybe the ruling elite might have to do without a high proportion of their 
several hundred million dollar p.a. remuneration packages?  Perhaps the 
$100 million floating mansions currently gracing Sydney Harbour may need to 
be pruned to a fraction of that size?  Could it be that corporate arms 
might need to be twisted to help the captains of industry accept that they 
CAN still operate with a significant proportion of their workforce 
telecommuting?

I should add that I am most certainly not a socialist, but unfortunately I 
see no evidence whatsoever that the free market will factor in the kinds of 
realities I have described above.  Nor do I see the leadership potential or 
inspirational vision there among the upper echelons to drive that kind of a 
necessary transformation.   Too negative?  Don't know.  As I said I am no 
expert, though I would really appreciate the perspectives of those who are, 
on these issues because they are vital to our survival.  I echo Chris's 
concern about the depletion of the US reserves.


Brad


>This is an excuse for continuing to do nothing.  What *is* known is that
>the costs of the *present* transport and energy systems (fossil fuels)
>are MUCH HIGHER than what consumers are paying for fuels today.  Adjust
>the fuel prices to the actual costs (environmental, public health and
>infrastructure damages) *first*, and then talk about the costs of
>alternatives.
>
>Anyway, due to the catastrophic effects of CO2 on the global climate,
>phasing out fossil fuels would be necessary even *before* the last
>reserves are consumed.
>
>In this context it is terribly ironic that Mr. "Earth in the Balance"
>(Al Gore) is advocating to deplete the U.S. Strategic Oil Reserve
>in order to lower oil prices.
>
>Chris

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