Hi Ray,

Once again, I've taken the liberty of modifying "Downturn . . . "

Without wishing to be offensive because you're too nice a chap for all
that, but I don't at all understand what you're saying below.

Sorry!

Keith H


At 11:55 28/05/01 -0400, you wrote:
>> To paraphrase Woody Allen who said most of life consists of just showing
>up,
>> maybe the most profound social change will take place when people don't
>show
>> up.
>>
>> arthur
>
>
>That is the reason for immigration.   When the second and third generations
>would refuse to work for garbage or tolerate a polluted or unsafe
>environment or demand an aesthetic that was truly encouraging of individual
>freedom, expression and personal excellence then we bring people in who
>don't care particularly for those things when compared to their love of
>family and desire to send dollars home.
>
>Then we write books about modern American "culture" which basically means
>everyone means different things when they use the English language which in
>return makes us paranoid about learning or using other languages since
>English means so many different things to the "citizens."   (Who needs
>another language when English can mean everything in the hands of so many
>different ancient groups?)    Religion becomes just another Messiah to be
>contemplated as the only reality and sold like a new car to replace an old
>"pagan" or just anachronistic jalopy.  And then we have books like "Culture
>Matters" which basically means that culture is in the way and therefore it
>is better to mix them constantly to make sure that they don't stop and
>involve such things as altruism or sharing or a balanced environment, or a
>common outlook or too much demand for individual excellence.
>
>"Americans"  look at us very confused when we tell them they can't "become"
>Cherokee if they want since such things come so easily to them.   Immigrant
>Americans are especially confused since we have the same ancient connection
>to our ways as they do to theirs.    They get upset when we say that they
>must assume a past debt with their "American" citizenship like reparations
>or stolen property.   That was "someone" else's debt even if it is moral.
>Of course a recent "immoral" debt like the 500 billion dollars or $10,000
>for every U.S. citizen paid  to the banks in the Savings & Loan "Bait and
>Switch"  is fine even though it  resembled a 19th century Indian Treaty.
>They equate our processes of equality, balance and sharing with "being"
>Cherokee and therefore they can't "do" them unless they "are" Cherokee by
>conversion or immigration.
>
>But Cherokees are taught that ideas and processes are universal and belong
>to those who practice them.     They could begin (but won't) with the
>awareness that knowledge means competence and that competence is the only
>real power.   Then they could proceed from that to the awareness that you
>"earn in order to make learning and realization of potential possible" not
>you "learn and realize potential in order to earn."   That is a big one and
>I don't think we will have many non-Cherokee "brothers" on that one anytime
>soon.  "Scale" is so built into non-Cherokee thought that we lost our land
>because we didn't practice it in 1880 when we were accused of being
>"Georgists."     A word so uncomfortably close to the "Georgia" (and
>Tennessee) volunteers who murdered our ancestors on the Trail of Tears as to
>be absolutely Freudian.
>
>Today is the day when we remember our War dead.   It is also a time when I
>must work to remind myself of the paradox of why it was worth it to save
>those abroad while practicing the ways of our enemies at home against our
>own "others."
>
>Ray Evans Harrell
>
>
>
>
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