At 19:29 29/05/01 -0400, you wrote:
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>       True imitation is extremely rare in animals other than humans, except
>for birdsong and dolphin
>       vocalisation, suggesting that they can have few or no memes. 

I'm not so sure about this. I once kept fantail doves. I'd built a dovecote
next to my garden pond (a rather elegant dovecote if I might say so). One
day a young dove, barely able to fly, fluttered down and fell into the
pond. Although to my mind he was obviously in some distress, two other
young doves thought this great fun and dived in as well. It was a veritable
Armada of doves striking out vigorously for the opposite shore. Needless to
say, they were all in danger of drowning almost immediately and I had to
assist them out. I told a biologist about this once and he didn't believe me.

Keith H

P.S. Mind you, my garden pond was a cut above the ordinary. I'd stocked it
up with fish, frogs, newts -- all acquired (surreptiously one dark evening)
from the lake at Warwick University. The doves' parents, however, had come
from a rather dubious establishment in Birmingham with no intellectual
distinction, but maybe during conception the offspring had acquired memes
by some sort of osmotic process from their aquatic neighbours.


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