Hi Ed,

I think we'll have to call our argument a draw. I don't think either of us
can persuade the other any further in the terms we've discussed it so far.
However, if I have time later today I'm going to try and get back to
analysing Hartington's (and your) case a little further by reference to his
seminal essay of 1993. (He backs his argument by giving five reasons for
his thesis and I would maintain that these are either specious or
irrelevant.) 

For now I just want to write a few words on what might be your (wrong)
assumptions on what Fukuyama's 'end-point' might be.  Of course, I don't
know how Fukuyama himself would discuss this, so what follows are my views
alone. For this purpose  I have detached the final paragraphs from your
last message: 

(KH)
> So all this is why I believe that Fukuyama is not only on the right track,
> but also why the rest of the world will inevitably get to an American way
> of life -- or perish in the attempt.
(EW)
<<<<
I've already given my reasons why I believe Fukuyama is very wrong.  That
America or the American way of life somehow represents 'the end of history'
is complete nonsense.
>>>>

The point I want to make here is that although Fukuyama talks of an
'end-point' -- that is, that most peoples and nations want to arrive at a
non-ideological liberal type of civilisation, perhaps best represented by
America -- he doesn't necessarily equate this with a particular way of
life, namely the American. 

I'm sure he doesn't, and I certainly don't believe so. Indeed, I'm sure
that the American way of life will have to change beyond all recognition in
the decades to come because economic circumstances will force this. This
doesn't mean to say that (in Fukuyama's terms) 'History' will change (even
though 'history' will) because I believe that transition to a new way of
life can only take place peacefully within a non-ideological, liberal, free
market context.

Very briefly, let me give one certain example of how the American way of
life will have to change. As oil and gas reserves decline steeply in the
coming decades because of increased demand from China and other developing
countries then the cost of fuel will rise enormously. There'll be
considerable diversification into new energy technologies, of course, but
none of these can produce cheap fuel and chemical feedstock for many
industries as now. (I've already made reference to this in my posting a few
days ago about the Hydrogen economy.)

Among all the huge changes that will take place, the widespread use of
private motor cars and inland transportation by manufacturers will decline
substantially. The British Government (of both political parties) have been
aware of this for years, and have said so from time to time. (Five years
ago at the beginning of the 'New Labour' government, John Prescott, the
Deputy Prime Minsiter, said that he would announce a "comprehensive
transport policy". He hasn't done so -- nor will he ever.) It is political
dynamite to propose specific solutions and, so far, no serious attempts
have been made to legislate in order to guide the population into new modes
of travel and industry into cheaper modes of production and seaboard
placement of factories, etc.

The American love of the motor car and, indeed, the very cheapness of his
fuel so far, means that the imposition of taxation (and other changes such
as road tolling, etc,) from above in the usual way by legislation is
fraught with problems. If, for example (I can only speak of England with
any authority), the government were to bring about widescale road tolling
(which will be necessary one day) then there'd be a revolution.

The only way that politicians can make changes is by saying to the
electorate that there is no escaping from the iron law of economics --
supply and demand. That they, as politicians can't modify basic
environmental circumstances anymore than they can stop the tide. 

I would maintain that these huge changes will only be able to take place
peacefully within a liberal non-ideological context by means of education
first (and repeatedly) and legislation second. But, so far, politicians
haven't had the courage to spell out the basic problems of energy supply.
 
Keith

P.S. This is a pre-breakfast offering and I don't think I'll have time to
write further today but meanwhile (unless you are already well-acquainted
with Hartington's case), you might be interested to read his essay (the
basis of his book presumably if you have not read it) which is to be found
at www.sundaytimes.co.uk. I find it an elaborate tapestry of words without
real substance or reference to the economic basics which have driven the
development of cultures throughout history.
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