pete wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 6 Jan, Ed Weick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Keith:
> >
> >> Yes, indeed. Those who are atheists are being just as dogmatic as those
> >> Believers who say that non-Believers are damned.
[snip]
> 
> I would say rather that people cannot cope with the Infinity of Being,
> and they have to make the indefinable defined, and the unlimited limited.
[snip]
> Apropos of Keith's comment of the dogmatic nature of atheists, I have
> found that some atheists want to extend their dogmatic views to
> agnostics, to the extent that they refuse to parse "a-gnostic" as
> "not-knowing", but rather insist that it must mean "can not be known",
> that is, an agnostic must hold the opinion that the Whateveritis
> can never be known. I sidestep this annoying response by describing
> myself as "semi-gnostic", which is more accurate anyway. I regard
> this category as a small constituency with a transient population,
> but I'm the only one I'm aware of who explicitly claims membership.
> 
>                                -Pete Vincent

I describe myself as "semi-literate". 

"Semi" because I do
not know Latin or Greek and will never have "the classics"
as part of my Ur-psyche.  "Literate" because I think I have some
gift for linguistic expression.

I grew up in Baltimore Maryland USA, home of Madilyn Murray(sp?),
the in-your-face atheist who got prayer removed from the
USA public schools ( and who eventually got killed in some
ugly way and whose son whom she rescued from
school prayers I think is now a fundamentalist Christian...).

--

If G-d shows me the instruments of torture, I am a coward and I
will probably say: "Yes, Sir!"  

If G-d puts aside His OMNIPOTENCE (which has nothing to
do with truth or virtue or beauty etc.!).... There is 
a story the great/heretical psychoanalyst 
Sandor Ferenczi told about a 3 year old nephew:

The nephew got into pummeling SF with his fists.  SF did
not like this.  SF grabbed the child firmly in his hands
and said to him: "I am stronger than you and will not
tolerate you beating on me.  But we are equal in imagination,
and you are free to think of me however you want."

SF said that, after that, he and his nephew got along very
well.  On similar terms, I could get along with G-d
very well, too.

"Yours in discourse...."

\brad mccormick

-- 
  Let your light so shine before men, 
              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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